amanda knox

[kinkajou2]

Tense activity in the courtroom now
I have just learned that Miss Knox"s mobile phone was turned off,as was
her boyfriends mobile,for 10 hours around the time of the murder.
Apparently this was unprecedented during her stay in Italy.
Did she at least know something was about to happen to Meredith Kercher

Not Guilty then!!!

[jno]

ta, JJ (for the explanation. not the ominous warning)

[DTCwordfan]

well, avoid his jurisdiction at the very least - so no visits to Perugia!

[Barmaid]

Sorry JJ, perhaps I have misunderstood (and as I've said, I've not really followed this), but I understood that Amanda Knox and Meredith Kercher shared a house. Surely therefore, Knox's DNA would be all over the place (including on clothes) so any dna which was present could be explained by innocent presence? Wasn't that how the DNA on the bra clasp was undermined by the independent expert?

[Barmaid]

Thank goodness you were not on the jury, Teddy. I would like to think that juries decide on evidence presented to the Court not based on what the papers say.

[Teddy_boy]

Am i wrong? Was guede convicted of slitting merediths throat?

[ummmm]

I don't think they break the conviction down....

[Teddy_boy]

Barmaid a jurors opinion that he arrives on is the foundation of teh justice system.People may have differing opinions on evidence , but the jury system i believe gives jurors the right to come to their own decision without influence , bias or duress.
Or am i wrong?

[Teddy_boy]

So was the news story wrong?
I believe it says guede took part in her murder but nevr slit her throat. I assume , though i may be wrong , that she died from her throat being slit.
Your theory would seem to be that if someone stabs someone and i shoot them tooo. As long as they die from the stabbing im innocent ?

[Barmaid]

"I dislike knix , a;ways have , and if i was on the jury of 6 i would hav convicted her. "

Precisely - I would hope a jury would convict on evidence and not on their like/dislike of the defendant or what they read in the papers. That is without influence, bias or distress and just my hope that that it is the evidence that leads to a conviction and nothing else.

[ummmm]

I've never read that Teddy. Have you got a link?

Are you suggesting Amanda slit her throat and managed to get rid of most of the DNA?

[joggerjayne]

Barmaid ...

Knoxy's DNA was all over the house ... but not in Meredith's bedroom.

Meredith evidently valued her own space, and Amanda respected that.

The bra clasp ...

After six weeks (!) of investigation, the prosecution had found none of Amanda's DNA in Meredith's bedroom ... none ... nada ... not a single, teeny bit.

There was only one possible conclusion ... Amanda had never been at the scene of the crime.

But Gulio Mignini wasn't having any of that. He was srong, but he wasn't going to admit it.

So they went back, and found the bra clasp, which had been kicking around on the floor of the flat for over six weeks, hoovering up all sorts of mixed DNA ... several different people!

It was bagged by an officer who admitted he had (1) handles items belonging to Amanda, and (2) failed to wear gloves to collect the bra clasp.

There was ALL SORTS of DNA on there. Evidentially, it proved nothing whatsoever.

But it didn't need to.

Amanda's lack of presence was already thoroughly proven.

But ... Mignini's so-called "DNA expert" supposedly managed to find a bit of Amanda'a DNA (or was it Raf's?) from among the assorted DNAs on the bra clasp.

The prosecution claimed this proved their case.

The Appeal judges have confirmed that it did no such thing.

[Teddy_boy]

Im afraid i live in the real world. Do you believe jurys convict accused that they like or empathise with?Isnt that why in the states the defence and prosecution try to select their favourite jurors. Maybe in a perfect world that wouldnt happen?But we dont live in a perfect world.That is evident when an innocent girl gets her throat slit and after 4 years the person who did it isnt in custody.

[Teddy_boy]

I dont have a link to news at ten , which i was watching and heard the reporter say that. Jogger jayne , who in your opinion slit merediths throat ?

[joggerjayne]

Rudy

[ummmm]

Teddy - She wouldn't have been convicted in the UK. She probably wouldn't have even been charged..!

[clokey]

// when an innocent girl gets her throat slit and after 4 years the person who did it isnt in custody//
The court thinks differently to you.

[DTCwordfan]

Now we should add "Procuratore Generale presso la Corte di Perugia" to JJ's immaculate Italian law résume....

[Barmaid]

But that has nothing to do with a jury, does it now? Since the latest jury did not find Knox and Sollecito guilty. The fact that other perpetrators are not in the dock with Guede is not the fault of the jury.

And I kind of live in the real world too. You have made a judgement on Knox based on your dislike for her. I take the view that only the jury hearing the evidence have the right to judge. That's why in this country we TRY and stop the press reporting adverse reports in high profile cases.

Thanks JJ, I thought that was the case. It sounded like a case ripe for contamination.

[joggerjayne]

DTC ...

You have the advantage over me there ... LOL

Is that a good title, or a bad title???

[Teddy_boy]

So the italian courts are rubbish. BUt they did catch the killer who slit her throat in your opinion.