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What has happened to Lord_Elpus thread?
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'Would they have got this banned'?
I could not see anything wrong with the question.
If someone had posted an offensive post, why wasn't just the offending post removed?
I could not see anything wrong with the question.
If someone had posted an offensive post, why wasn't just the offending post removed?
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Lord_Elpus - you accused someone you have ever met, and have no prior knowledge of, of being scared of getting a prayer ban on
You're presenting a hypothetical situation, and placing someone you've never met into it, and have decided how they would act.
I think that's a dangerously large leap of logic, and I think what people were criticising you for was that the thrust of your argument was "Here's another example of us pandering to Muslims".
I don't think it is, but if you may recall, my last post to the thread was asking your to clarify your position, because I wasn't sure what you were trying to say.
Anyway, this is how it now stands - there are to be no prayers at council meetings and it doesn't matter whether you are catholic, Hindu, Jewish or Muslim.
If prayers WERE to continue, then it would only be fair for the atheist councillors to read passages from Richarwd Dawkins book too.
You're presenting a hypothetical situation, and placing someone you've never met into it, and have decided how they would act.
I think that's a dangerously large leap of logic, and I think what people were criticising you for was that the thrust of your argument was "Here's another example of us pandering to Muslims".
I don't think it is, but if you may recall, my last post to the thread was asking your to clarify your position, because I wasn't sure what you were trying to say.
Anyway, this is how it now stands - there are to be no prayers at council meetings and it doesn't matter whether you are catholic, Hindu, Jewish or Muslim.
If prayers WERE to continue, then it would only be fair for the atheist councillors to read passages from Richarwd Dawkins book too.
Lord_Elpus, what evidence do you have that the atheists would have been too scared to take legal action were the councillors Muslims? If none , why do you think that would have been be the case?
If the word 'Jews' were substituted for 'Muslims', the hypothesis changed, do you think the post would have been inherently offensive?
If the word 'Jews' were substituted for 'Muslims', the hypothesis changed, do you think the post would have been inherently offensive?
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"And in the same way that I obviously have no proof about the person in my OP most of you that make accusations on here have no proof whatsover of people on here being racist,"
I should probably say that I haven't seen the thread in question, but I'm a little disappointed (if unsurprised) that here you've quite happily admitted that you had no evidence for whatever it was you were saying.
As to accusations of racism on this site, I agree that there are some which aren't particularly well-founded (I just ignore them) - but generally speaking, I think if someone is accused of racism it's done so on the basis of whatever people post here - which seems a pretty good sort of evidence if what we're discussing is the values motivating those posts.
The rest of your post is essentially an overly long claim that you're being persecuted/censored. Which could possibly be true. But I have to say I'm a little wary given the track record of such claims to be bandied about for no good reason on this site. And this is a website - don't forget that. The Ed allows huge numbers of 'right-wing' posts and also frequently allows threads (like this one) that are critical of him, so I'm not convinced by your claim that he has some kind of political agenda against you. But you are right to say that he does have an agenda against the posts that he removes - it's codified in the site Terms & Conditions. Personally, I see nothing wrong with that.
I should probably say that I haven't seen the thread in question, but I'm a little disappointed (if unsurprised) that here you've quite happily admitted that you had no evidence for whatever it was you were saying.
As to accusations of racism on this site, I agree that there are some which aren't particularly well-founded (I just ignore them) - but generally speaking, I think if someone is accused of racism it's done so on the basis of whatever people post here - which seems a pretty good sort of evidence if what we're discussing is the values motivating those posts.
The rest of your post is essentially an overly long claim that you're being persecuted/censored. Which could possibly be true. But I have to say I'm a little wary given the track record of such claims to be bandied about for no good reason on this site. And this is a website - don't forget that. The Ed allows huge numbers of 'right-wing' posts and also frequently allows threads (like this one) that are critical of him, so I'm not convinced by your claim that he has some kind of political agenda against you. But you are right to say that he does have an agenda against the posts that he removes - it's codified in the site Terms & Conditions. Personally, I see nothing wrong with that.
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Lord_Elpus - your original post seemed to suggest that the case wouldn't have succeeded (or even come about) if the complaint were about Muslim prayer.
I could not prove you right or wrong - but more importantly, nor can you.
Ultimately, there seems to be little more to say apart from, "Muslims get away with everything they want and we all bend over backwards to accommodate their religion....except...give me a moment...
I could not prove you right or wrong - but more importantly, nor can you.
Ultimately, there seems to be little more to say apart from, "Muslims get away with everything they want and we all bend over backwards to accommodate their religion....except...give me a moment...
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