Time to look at the jury system?

[d9f1c7]

Assuming this guy didn't actually do it...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/...gland-london-18102336
Is it time to look at alternatives to the Jury system?
It seems several aspects of the case are unsound from the prosecution, yet this guy was still convicted. Presumably the defence was sadly lacking or the Jury ignored the evidence. Anyway whatever the reasons surely the system is in serious need of change if this can happen.

[cathfromsaron]

i would be a useless juror, because i think people 'look guilty' or not!

[FredPuli43]

Nobody in their right mind and properly advised opts for trial by lay magistrates when a trial by jury is available. Professional magistrates (Deuty judges, formerly Stipendiary magistrates) are rather better; one such reported two police officers for perjury in one day, which suggests that he, at least, wouldn't take police evidence uncritically, unlike certain lay benches. But there is a great safeguard in twelve people hearing and debating evidence, and bringing their individual experience of life to bear.

In this case, it was as Barmaid said. The failure was in non-disclosure to the defence ( and an incompetent investigation by the police) Not a lot that the defence can do in that bad situation.

[jno]

I don't know what the police failed to disclose. But I would have thought the defence should have been looking at his photos, scouring his Facebook page (etc) for any stray evidence of what he'd been doing on the day in question.

Well, not FB, I don't suppose it was going then. But any electronic traces he'd left anywhere. It would have saved him a lot of grief.

[rojash]

"Sorry Rojash, must type quicker."

Ah, but you put it so much better, Barmaid.

[pdq1]

Maybe the jury should have an intelligence test before being chosen. Its no good for the thick to go along with the majority when they cannot understand what is going on.

[Davethedog]

I don't know the answer, but are these people more intent on conviction, than justice?

They believe someone guilty so they don't bother, not corruption but a woeful lazy certainty? That is proved wrong.

Remember Hallam knew the gang, he was also aware trouble was brewing so he stayed away, he was poorly advised, so maybe even his defense thought him guilty.

The system is fine. Is its the "professionals" who let him down

[pdq1]

I should have said Spain is going the same way as Greece. Junk status.

[jno]

what, their jury system too?