Ian Brady (Moors murderer) wants to die, should he be allowed to?

[RATTER15]

I didnt realise that he is being tube fed since being on hunger strike 12 years ago.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18739237

Im a little surprised they are permitted to feed him by tube, claiming his insanity, im sure they are acting within the law but I really dont know how!

[emmie]

Mike apologies, but have been busy, will have a read through later.

[tonyav]

Yes I remember that Mike ( A bloody idiot Lord Longford imo ).
em, I would very gladly pull the lever to release the trapdoor.

[emmie]

tonyav, perhaps some are waiting for him to point out where other bodies are buried, if he starves himself to death that won't happen. I know that families that have been left behind are still grieving for their lost children, even after all this time.

[tonyav]

Don't think he will ever tell em, he bloody well would if I were allowed 10mins alone with him.

[emmie]

i suspect going on previous photo's of him the police had a good go at him at the time of his arrest, i doubt very much, unless there is some inducement for him to spill all, he would do so, even under severe mistreatment, torture. Perhaps if i had lost my child in such a callous, brutal way i would wish him dead, but if my child was never found, having been buried on the moors, then i would want him alive, in the hope he has a pang of conscience and would one divulge the site, so i could my child a decent burial and have some closure.

[tonyav]

I fully understand what you mean em, but I do think that maybe if it was said to him, tell us where the kids bodies are and we will allow you to die, then just maybe he would tell.

[mike11111]

Regrettably, as has been pointed out in an earlier post on this thread, the area concerned is so vast that he probably cannot recall the spot with any degree of accuracy. Could you pinpoint a particular spot in a huge area you last visited nearly fifty years ago?

[emmie]

this is the article, interesting and chilling at the same time

http://www.dailymail....tml?ito=feeds-newsxml

[tonyav]

That is true mike, but surely this piece of low life Sh!t could narrow the area down and with perhaps the aid of modern technology find the kids remains.

[tonyav]

Very chilling, em

[emmie]

it is. I remember all too well reading a book about this case, so indepth that gave me nightmares for long time after. I don't have it now, and not sure i could read it again if i had.

[mike11111]

As an aside, and in no way attempting to derogate from the import of this thread, the following notion suddenly struck me:

The forename Ian is so widespread that it is popular to this day. Myra is not so common a name. Does anyone know of any woman under the age of fifty christened Myra?

[emmie]

no, in fact i only know one Ian and he is quite old.

[tonyav]

I can vaguely actually remember it going on at the time em, seeing film of the police combing the moors, I was a small child at the time and some of those poor kids were about my age. I can remember asking my mom about it at the time and her saying they ( Myra Hindley and Ian Brady ) were very nasty people ( talk about understatement ).

[tonyav]

I don't know anyone by the name Myra full stop, mike.

[emmie]

I think the book i read was Beyond Belief, but lets say i doubt would want to read it again.

[mike11111]

My point being that certain names are so associated with notoriety that they become taboo. No one in their right mind would name their child Judas or Satan. Even the innocuous Moira has dropped below the radar, because of its sound so easily extrapolated as Myra. I know only one Moira, and she is over seventy. When I was a kid I knew loads.

[ummmm]

I know a few Moira's. No Myra's though.

Know a few Ian's as well.

[mike11111]

Ian, being a variant of John, is with us to stay and carries no baggage nor the opportunity to mock. Not so the less common forenames which can easily be associated with a notorious criminal. In my part of the world the name Mary Anne fell out of favour during the late Victorian era lest children should mock anyone so-called by reciting the skipping rhyme: "Mary Anne Cotton..." (a notorious child murderess of that era).

[RATTER15]

My name is Ian and I used to have a neighbour called Myra, both of us born before these attrocoties however.