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should they have given her a lift home ?
http:// www.bbc .co.uk/ ...ting hamshir e-19850 630
A very sad case but.
As she was at a family party were there no friends or relations to drive her home, no one to give her money for a taxi, and should the police be used as a taxi service for drunks or tipsy people on their way home after a night out.
Dave.
A very sad case but.
As she was at a family party were there no friends or relations to drive her home, no one to give her money for a taxi, and should the police be used as a taxi service for drunks or tipsy people on their way home after a night out.
Dave.
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it is really unrealistic for police to take every drunk girl home. as someone else has said, i wouldn't have been in that situation - i always book a taxi home and never drink my taxi money. why couldn't a relative have helped? if people start blaming the police, they should also blame the relatives for letting her walk home alone.
19:38 Fri 05th Oct 2012
this is a link to more on this story, she was obviously very drunk, which isn't a good state to get into, but that doesn't tally with what these officers said.
http:// www.bbc .co.uk/ ...ting hamshir e-19832 634
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dave
from the other link i posted, no where does it say why she left the party nor why she was walking home alone.
They made a check on the police national computer and when she walked away she was "swaying", the court heard.
She was also captured on CCTV trying to flag down a bus, and later got into a taxi and got out without paying.
whatever one's thought on the police i still think they could have helped.
blame the piece of s&&t that killed her, and going on the link he had form.
from the other link i posted, no where does it say why she left the party nor why she was walking home alone.
They made a check on the police national computer and when she walked away she was "swaying", the court heard.
She was also captured on CCTV trying to flag down a bus, and later got into a taxi and got out without paying.
whatever one's thought on the police i still think they could have helped.
blame the piece of s&&t that killed her, and going on the link he had form.
perhaps, but there is no info as to why she left, flagging down a bus, then getting into a taxi, she must have been bladdered. Sadly a young woman has lost her life, perhaps the police could do more to make people aware of the dangers of going home alone after a night out. One thing of course is this could have just as easily happened if she had been stone cold sober, and in the daytime.
dotty.
/// the AA would have responded better than those two plastic plods, they never leave a lone female they keep them talking on the phone at the very least. ///
"TWO PLASTIC PODS" ah! what a nice piece of descriptive terminology to describe two volunteer and unpaid citizens, who give up their time to protect the public at great risk to themselves.
First let me make it clear that this was a very tragic case and no one deserves to meet such a death, BUT.......
Had this been a matter of a lone drunk male thumbing a lift home by a police car, there would have been cries of why should the police be responsible for every drunk that comes along, and why should police resources be wasted taking them home?
Why in this day of sexual equality should women be treated any differently than men, this woman was not a vulnerable teenager, she was a woman of 28, when are adults going to be held responsible for their own actions?
/// the AA would have responded better than those two plastic plods, they never leave a lone female they keep them talking on the phone at the very least. ///
"TWO PLASTIC PODS" ah! what a nice piece of descriptive terminology to describe two volunteer and unpaid citizens, who give up their time to protect the public at great risk to themselves.
First let me make it clear that this was a very tragic case and no one deserves to meet such a death, BUT.......
Had this been a matter of a lone drunk male thumbing a lift home by a police car, there would have been cries of why should the police be responsible for every drunk that comes along, and why should police resources be wasted taking them home?
Why in this day of sexual equality should women be treated any differently than men, this woman was not a vulnerable teenager, she was a woman of 28, when are adults going to be held responsible for their own actions?
well given what happened, and with hindsight, of course they should - however they couldnt have known that would happen.
99.9% of time she would have just walked home and been fine.
They cannot just drive people around because they ask for it - they are working, not a taxi - I find it hard to believe she couldnt do something, like borrow a couple of quid, get the cab to stop at a cashpoint, get the money from her house when she got home... why go to a party with no cash at all?
i have even paid by cheque, because all the local cashpoints wouldnt pay out for some reason - he didnt particularly want to take it but he had my home address and phone number etc if it bounced.
there is always a way.
problem is there is a problem of people phoning ambulances and the police feigning illness etc just to get a free lift home, and taking the them away from real issues, so they can't be seen to be just driving people home just because they want a lift - if shed been paralytic i dont believe they would not have taken her - nor would her family have let her walk home.
imagine if they had taken her home - and later discovered there had been a violent murder in the very street theyd picked her up in?
imagine the uproar when the family and public found out that their loved one may have been saved had the police not been driving some drunken woman home?
if a murderer is on the prowl then it would just have been some other poor woman.
i totally undertsand them saying no, its just sad that in this rare instance it had terrible consequences.
99.9% of time she would have just walked home and been fine.
They cannot just drive people around because they ask for it - they are working, not a taxi - I find it hard to believe she couldnt do something, like borrow a couple of quid, get the cab to stop at a cashpoint, get the money from her house when she got home... why go to a party with no cash at all?
i have even paid by cheque, because all the local cashpoints wouldnt pay out for some reason - he didnt particularly want to take it but he had my home address and phone number etc if it bounced.
there is always a way.
problem is there is a problem of people phoning ambulances and the police feigning illness etc just to get a free lift home, and taking the them away from real issues, so they can't be seen to be just driving people home just because they want a lift - if shed been paralytic i dont believe they would not have taken her - nor would her family have let her walk home.
imagine if they had taken her home - and later discovered there had been a violent murder in the very street theyd picked her up in?
imagine the uproar when the family and public found out that their loved one may have been saved had the police not been driving some drunken woman home?
if a murderer is on the prowl then it would just have been some other poor woman.
i totally undertsand them saying no, its just sad that in this rare instance it had terrible consequences.
pastafreak
/// Every one keeps stating 'she should have behaved responsbly'.....but she was drunk, and that usually cancels out clear thought and responsible behaviour. ///
Don't you think that the first step to behaving responsible is not to get drunk in the first place, especially if you have no idea how you are going to get home.
/// Every one keeps stating 'she should have behaved responsbly'.....but she was drunk, and that usually cancels out clear thought and responsible behaviour. ///
Don't you think that the first step to behaving responsible is not to get drunk in the first place, especially if you have no idea how you are going to get home.
NOX
/// 'Plastic Plods' describe them perfectly AOG- if this is most common sense they can show then we'd all be better off without them. ///
Before talking about showing common sense, perhaps you should look closer to home.
Is it ' commonsensicall' to think that police (Special or Regular) are best employed picking up drunks who have flagged them down to cadge a lift home?
What would you say if the police picked up female drunks walking home alone, and ferried them back to the 'nick' to spend the night in the cells?
/// 'Plastic Plods' describe them perfectly AOG- if this is most common sense they can show then we'd all be better off without them. ///
Before talking about showing common sense, perhaps you should look closer to home.
Is it ' commonsensicall' to think that police (Special or Regular) are best employed picking up drunks who have flagged them down to cadge a lift home?
What would you say if the police picked up female drunks walking home alone, and ferried them back to the 'nick' to spend the night in the cells?