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Andy008 | 22:17 Mon 20th Jun 2005 | News
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I went out last night for a pint, ended up having ten, and after 2 hours sleep got the train home. I left the station, and walked through a shopping centre en route to my house. As I entered the building, immediately in front of me sat on a bench was a woman changing her child's nappy. The extreme heat only concentrated the acrid smell of fresh poo as it hit the back of my nose. This, coupled with a splitting hangover, made me feel so incredibly nauseous I almost vomited there and then.

There must surely be some law against doing that?  

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some of these posts have really made me laugh, especially the one from Dark Angel (sorry), but why should kissing be banned in public?  I am quite an open minded person and not that much shocks me....I'm not bothered if women want to breast feed in public, I see no harm...and as most say, you are hardly aware that they are breast feeding.  Breast feeding is the most natural thing in the world and the breast shouldn't always be looked upon as something sexual.  As for changing your babies nappy in public, I'm sure there are most public facilities where you can take your baby to change their nappy...but if you had no where else to change the baby then I don't see what the big fuss is about?

i can't say i'm particularly bothered by someone breast-feeding, but i'm uncomfortable by seeing it in public, i would say that except in rare cases it's highly unnecessary.  It's often like the woman is saying, "look, fertile and i've got my thruppennies out in public but it's okay because i've got a baby".  big deal.

as far as nappies i do find it offensive.  i don't wipe my backside in public and i don't wish to see it being done either.  there are always baby-changing facilities in shopping centres, even mcdonalds and tescos have them - this woman was obviously too lazy, ill-mannered and selfish to do the right thing.

Which reminds me, yesterday whilst in the centre of London I saw a woman pick up a 3 year old girl and made her urinate against a wall.  This, right next to dozens of sandwich shops and eateries where at least one of them would have let her use the facilities (and I know because I've taken a child many times and done the same thing).  I couldn't believe how much of it came out, this girl's bladder must be the size of a medicine ball!

And you know, the same woman would have probably complained had it been a bloke relieving himself in the same way (quite rightly though!).

Two comments on here really wound me up

(1) that nappy changing in public should be banned - should the poor little mite be made to sit in their faeces then risk very sore nappy rash - perhaps you should try it for half an hour or so and see if you like it and

(2) that breastfeeding should be banned in public. Not everywhere offers facilities for breastfeeding and breastfeeding is no doubt the best way to feed your baby - the best and healthiest thing you can do for them - should the child go hungry? Do we mothers say ".well tough little one you can't have anything to eat cause some people find it offensive".

Grow up - this is a modern society.

Andy - perhaps you'd be better off learning to control your drinking.
URSULA62 - which pizza place was that - would be interested to know as I will never eat in there again either.

Like someone else said - I am also gobsmacked by the narrowmindedness of some people. Why the hell a small child should suffer just to keep one man with a hangover happy is beyond me.

You can tell who are the ones with children and who aren't. I hope that one day all you narrowminded people without children have them and find yourself in the situation where you have to change your baby on a bench and I hope you have a hangover whilst you have to do it.

Get a grip! For goodness sake! This does NOT have to be a problem.

Its just BABY POO!   And WHY..... WHY is breastfeeding SO offensive to some people. Its a baby. On a breast! Get over yourselves. Jeeeez

Live and let live... for Gods sake!

Oh, for heaven's sake...this seems to be a relatively new phenomenon.  Back in the 1950s and 60s, before disposable diapers were the norm, mothers went out and about with their babies, and still never thought to plop them on a restaurant table and change them.  Breastfeeding as well - nursing is not a new practice, mothers in the 1920s, 30s etc breastfed their babies, but still managed to not have to do it in the middle of a public shopping mall.  It's still a breast, people - if a non-nursing woman whipped one out in public, it would be considered indecent exposure.  Why is it so suddenly OK just because an infant is attached to it?
Because Ouisch, a female breast that is lactating ceases to be an object of desire to 99.99% of men (cant say for women). If you have the worlds most curvaceous woman and get her to suckle her baby, the sexual instinct for the observer disappears. It is nature and thats the way it is. So a baby at the end of a teat is not like any other woman flashing her bits. OK

Otere - strikes me that you are also narrow minded for dismissing other peoples perfectly valid opinions out of hand.

You may not like them - but it doesn't make them any less valid than yours.

Repeating myself, as a father, I have changed many a pooey nappy whilst out with my daughter - however, I've always managed to find a clean, private and purpose built environment in which to do so - and I hasten to add, within minutes - nothing like the half an hour that you state.

 

People who change a pooey nappy on a bench in a shopping centre are bone idle - they can't be bothered to get off their backsides and find a place that is suitable.

 

It comes back to this attitude that some parents have that as they've managed to pop a baby out, they can therefore do what the hell they like with complete impunity - and anybody who questions it is a complete monster because....all together now........IT'S NATURAL.

Again repeating myself, even though I am a father, I do not like to see this sort of thing - it is simply not necessary.

I wonder if the contributors here who are against nappy changing or breastfeeding in public went...ah...isnt she fantastic...... when that london marathoner had an unscheduled stop for a poo in the middle of a race by the side of the street in front of thousands of spectators and millions of TV viewers. Maybe she isnt chavvy enough and she will be made a dame and she is a celebrity...so it must be OK.
And this adds what to the debate?

My sentiments exactly Ducati!!

what it asks Ducati and Dark angel is would you be against Paula Radcliffe for doing what she did or take a 'ah well it does not matter she did not have a choice' type of approach. Its not much different from a mother who has a baby who needs food/nappy change. I am just not sure that you would apply your same arguments for the 2 situations.
here here dom tuk!

Well to answer your question, No, as it happens, I thought what Paula Radcliffe did was equally unacceptable - I couldn't give a tinker's cuss that it was mid-marathon, it is unacceptable behaviour to take a dump in the street, just as it is unacceptable behaviour to change a nappy full of **** in a shopping centre where there are perfectly adequate changing facilities.

 

Do I also get a hear hear boobesque?

Should read "....on a bench in the middle of a shopping centre..."
fair enough Ducati, i will accept that you do not approve of this kind of behaiviour across the board. I did not direct this question to you directly when i first posed it. I wondered if there was anyone who felt one was acceptable and not the other and wanted the reasons for it.

Nappy changing is one thing but please get over this breast feeding thing. Funny how no one has a problem with page three girls hanging it all out all over papers that any one can get hold of but do what is after all is natural and every wally and his wife start carping. yes vomiting in public is offensive and hard luck on you if you've got a hang over. Thats self induced. 

I hope when your all old and grey you remember that the kids you would deny now are the ones that will be changing your incontinant pads and looking after you. I hope your made to sit there like you made them.

eupraxia - everybody has the right to voice their opinions. You are being opinionated if you try to force your opinions on other people. And you don't know for a fact that the other posters condone what page 3 girls do.

There are a couple of parents on this thread who have said they've raised children but never had to do these things in public. Nobody's asking that a child be left in dirty nappies, or left hungry, In this day and age there are so many facilities provided, if mothers in the past managed to do these things discretely, I don't see why mothers today can't.My mother raised five children and I've never seen her change or feed my younger brothers and sister in public, though of course, I've seen her do it in private.

In response to some of the comments on here decent baby change facilities are not always available. I was recently in a Chinese restaurant in my home town (Liverpool) Mid meal my son decided it was a great time to fill his nappy. There were no baby change facilities in the restaurant and I had to change my son's nappy in a tiny crowded toilet with two cubicles which weren't large enough to swing a hamster in never mind a cat! I had to change and clean my son up while he was perched on my knee (refused to put him on the dirty floor). Luckily my friend was on hand to help otherwise I wouldn't have been able to manage. My point is this, if there are changing facilities available then great, if not then the bench it is!

As for breastfeeding - whats the big problem?  I would like to ask any of the objectors who have commented on here do any of you smoke?

I have a big problem with inhaling other peoples filthy fag fumes so I assume that if you needed to have a drag while you are out and about you would have no problem with looking around for a special smoking room (maybe a dingy stinky toilet)  where you can smoke on your own out of sight (and smelling distance) of us people who dislike ciggy fumes?  

Andy008, if you think changing a baby on a bench in a shopping centre is bad, imagine how I felt when a woman in a cafe started changing her babys nappy on the table!

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