Blimey, Are Things That Bad In This Country That Our Illegals Are Paying To Leave?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2265646/Illegal-immigrants-pay-1-500-smuggled-OUT-Britain-Fears-gangs-helping-foreign-criminals-flee-country.html

/// ‘It suggests that attempts to crack down on failed asylum seekers and overstayers – as well as the downturn in our own economy and subsequent lack of work here – could at last be having an effect. ///

/// Illegal immigrants who are caught by the authorities are offered financial ‘bribes’ if they agree to go home. ///

Now that is good of us, we are so accommodating in this country.

/// Officials estimate a forced deportation costs more than £11,000. ///

I would love to see a breakdown of this figure, one could have a deluxe all expenses paid holiday abroad, in a five star hotel situated in some exotic resort, for that amount.

[needawin]

Could I be deported to the Bahamas for a few months?

[Gromit]

Em10
The Poles arrived for jobs. There aren't any left for the Bulgarians and Rumanians. I cannot see a repeat scenario.

[anotheoldgit]

Gromit

/// There are some people now who think this is great and everything is wonderful. ///

And we all know who they are.

Ask around and most will tell you we would be better off in this country if we had stuck to controlled immigration.

If you had an amount of feed just enough for 'your' animals, and your neighbouring farmer let in 'his' herd also to feed, surely your animals would suffer, and you would be within your right to complain also?

[emmie]

did they, how would anyone know how many jobs were going at the time?
seeing as how many actually came as opposed to the small amount that were expected.

[AB Editor]

Ah, so you accept the beer could be better? Germany isn't called Europe's bartender for nothing :)

Completely aside: I've found an American beer worth investigating for anyone who like lager: http://www.anchorbrewing.com/ it's a full, sweet-ish lager which doesn't have any of that usual crap "light" fizziness associated with American beer.

For something more "Aley" there's this: http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/odell-90-shilling/2177/

I like parts of globalization AOG, so turning back the clock isn't something I fancy.

[AB Editor]

"Ask around and most will tell you we would be better off in this country if we had stuck to controlled immigration."

It's certainly unwise for the government to not know how many people are in the country at any one time... I don't think the numbers of Jonny Foreigners here currently is a problem, but knowing what that number is is a good idea.

[emmie]

but they don't know, nor will they, people can be absorbed in cities, work in black economies never ever coming to the attention of the authorities, which isn't good at all. The census is not a good and accurate head count.

[Gromit]

I prefer Belgian Beer to German. But I by far prefer English (British) Ales. With the advent of the micro-brewery we are seeing a utopia of quality, real cask ales in this country. In fact I cannot ever remember it ever being this good. Certainly come a long way since the dark days of he 1960s.

[anotheoldgit]

Gromit

/// In fact I cannot ever remember it ever being this good. Certainly come a long way since the dark days of he 1960s. ///

Ah, but I can Gromit, those balmy days of Worthington E, a beer that was like wine so much so that it was generally drank in half pint beer mugs.

Then Bass to be pulled without the slightest hint of a creamed head on it, to coin a phrase "as flat as a kippers t*t".

The bottled Bass Red Label, to be tilted at an angle and allowed to pour slowly into a glass, without disturbing the sediment in the bottom of the bottle.

Yes beer was to be enjoyed with a certain amount of ceremony in those days, not seeing how many can be slung down one's neck during a night out.

[pdq1]

The fact that so many refuse to take it up may point they can receive much more in benefits.

[anotheoldgit]

/// Certainly come a long way since the dark days of he 1960s. ///

Wait a minute Gromit, you wasn't born until 1964, are you telling us you were weaned onto the beer of those dark days?

[Gromit]

I was born in 1964, but I remember my father drinking rubbish like Double Diamond, Watney's and trophy bitter. My drinking started in the late 1970s and the choice then was pretty dismal.

There were 350 new breweries last year bring the total to more than 1000 in the UK. The most since between the wars.

We are in a golden age for British Beer and we be enjoying it.