A Sentance So Richly Deserved.

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2324254/Tia-Sharps-killer-Stuart-Hazell-jailed-38-years-parole.html

At last a sentence to fit the crime, he will be 75 years old before he is released.

Yesterday Tia's father said that, whatever jail sentence this monster received, he should be hanged at the end of it.

Does anyone agree?

[Slapshot]

I think the sentence is suitable as long as the courts and the do-gooders in our modern "right on" politically correct society don't make a change on it.

I am a big believer in Capital Punishment but the crime must be fitting, Yorkshire Ripper, Fred West, the cases each and every one of us have decried over the years that have been proven beyond any doubt, I'd agree with hanging the scrotes.

[askyourgran]

A man who took a childs life, whose life ended begging and screaming for mercy? Yes I would and it would not affect me, I was not the one who killed an innocent child, but I would wish it double upon the child's killer. No crime at all to avenge the death of an innocent.

[Answerprancer]

LM*O I knew this post would attract the drooling rabid fascists.
Thank god they're a) mostly brainless simpletons and b) therefore harmless.

[ummmm]

That's the sad thing, AP, they aren't.

Thank God they don't make the laws though!

[jim360]

That is one on which we will have to agree to differ. It is worth stressing that I don't think of anyone who wishes death upon a criminal as an awful person. Just wrong about the concept of justice. The best way of putting it, I think, is that if ever I caught someone who killed someone in my family myself, I'd not be surprised if he ended up dead if I had the chance to kill him, if I didn't have the time to think about it. But justice isn't really about an equal trade, in my opinion. It should be about catching and condemning the accused, free from angry, but totally understandable, emotional responses.

What I find frustrating is how people who try to be dispassionate about justice get so much bile for doing so. We aren't "lily-livered liberals" - and you aren't "angry hate-filled violent yobs" either. We just disagree about how justice should work.

[emmie]

let us hope it's never your child...

[Answerprancer]

I think they're a comedic minority of baboons Ummmm, still a few rungs below most on the evolutionary ladder.
I should have used "other" instead of "the" in my previous post ;-)

[ummmm]

That's a pretty stupid thing to say Em...

[jno]

I do hope it's never my child, Em, but I still wouldn't want them killed (even once let alone twice as AYG suggests)

[Answerprancer]

That is a very diplomatic reaction Jim - sadly, I think your diplomacy will be overlooked.

[Zeuhl]

/Maybe these will suffice then?/

ChillDoubt - they suffice to show you don't know much about prisons


your links are just regarding last week's announcements that were comprehensively categorised by most people professionally involved with the Prison Service as 'nothing more than political posturing'

[emmie]

if you say so, it's an emotional subject, and i am pretty sure that if it was my child i would want the person responsible dead. We don't have state hangings any more, for some that is more the pity.

[LazyGun]

Fortunately, AYG, the laws about capital punishment are made by and upheld by civilised people, or- those lily-livered hand wringers, as i think you called them. Did that gratuitious insult bring the warm glow of supposed moral superiority to your cheeks? Are you basking in the warmth of your own self-righteousness yet?

It is unlikely,fortunately, that the death penalty will be brought back to satisfy your atavistic desire for state sanctioned killing as part of some retributive justice that you deem appropriate.

Interesting isn't it that virtually all the civilised and most developed societies in the world have either firmly turned away from or are in the process of turning away from capital punishment.

It is said that those people who most keenly anticipated drop of the guillotine back in revolutionary France were the grannies, busy knitting away whilst watching the head roll and the blood spurt.....

[Zeuhl]

/let us hope it's never your child... /

em

as ummm says, that's pretty stupid

because it is always someone's child

but that doesn't mean their understandably extreme reaction should shape the justice system that will be enacted in all our names

askyourgran - jim is very polite

personally, i would advise you to step back from the keyboard; your drool is getting in the keys

[emmie]

In France the last execution by guillotine was in the late 1970's, and capital punishment wasn't ended there till 1981, so hardly Dickens tale of two cities. USA still has the death penalty in many states, i know it won't be brought back here, no matter what some people might think.

[jake-the-peg]

Thing is that those who put their hand up to be the executioner usually don't get it.

The executioner has to do his job regardless of his opinions

It's easy for Gran to be the avenging Angel of a child molester

But if you're in favour of capital punishment and your up for being the executioner would you still be willing to pull the handle if it was someone you didn't think deserved it - Tony Martin say

Or someone you thought was innocent.

The executioner doesn't get to pick and choose

That's the difference between an executioner and a member of a lynch mob

[emmie]

i really don't care what you think, the point being it's a very emotional subject, and no matter who's child, some see that having this person in prison serves no purpose. I am not one for hanging, but he should have got a whole life tariff, life in this case should mean that.

[Slapshot]

So AP....who are you labelling as "drooling rabid fascists"?? Those that support Capital Punishment in the right situation of those that don't??

[LazyGun]

@Em How is this part of my post

"Interesting isn't it that virtually all the civilised and most developed societies in the world have either firmly turned away from or are in the process of turning away from capital punishment."

Countered or rebutted by your post?

[jim360]

If you're calling for whole life tariffs then in that we're in full agreement.