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Time For The Daily Mail To Apologise?
A YouGov poll reveals that 69% of the nation thinks that the Daily Mail owes Ed Milliband an apology for trashing his father.
And more tellingly, 57% of the paper's own readership think the same.
In what other circumstances could a national paper get away with dancing on the grave of a war hero?
And more tellingly, 57% of the paper's own readership think the same.
In what other circumstances could a national paper get away with dancing on the grave of a war hero?
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I fail to understand why people keep trying to link the "disrespect" shown to Thatcher on the announcement that she was dead and the allegations made by the DM against Ralph Miliband. Please explain, because otherwise to me it seems you are just trying to create a false equivalence in an effort to rationalise what the DM did. Even if your false equivalence were...
09:40 Tue 08th Oct 2013
JJ
There's a massive difference between disagreeing with a Guardian article because you don't share the same point of view, and the Guardian printing a character assassination on someone.
I remember the fuss that certain people kicked up when elements of the Left celebrated Thatcher's death.
emmie - were you not one of them?
There's a massive difference between disagreeing with a Guardian article because you don't share the same point of view, and the Guardian printing a character assassination on someone.
I remember the fuss that certain people kicked up when elements of the Left celebrated Thatcher's death.
emmie - were you not one of them?
emmie
I think the Mail is a rotten paper. I think it's wallows in the politics of hate, but I accept that there are hateful people out there, and that the Mail, and to a lesser extent the Express, gives them an outlet for minorities that they wish to express their hatred for.
It would be a perfect world if everyone were accepting and tolerant of others, but that's never going to happen.
We will always have...other...elements.
I think the Mail is a rotten paper. I think it's wallows in the politics of hate, but I accept that there are hateful people out there, and that the Mail, and to a lesser extent the Express, gives them an outlet for minorities that they wish to express their hatred for.
It would be a perfect world if everyone were accepting and tolerant of others, but that's never going to happen.
We will always have...other...elements.
yes i was, if you actually take the time to read what i said, i found it distasteful and have posted endless links photo's of those who gloried in her being dead, and champagne, what a laugh that is, exploding all over the place in mighty celebrations, which is what is so stupid about this tit for tat with the paper and Miliband, plenty of his supporters and councillors were happy when she passed away, wonder what Mrs T family thought of it.
they didn't get spanked, as to the Guardianistas, that encompasses quite a lot of people i believe. getting your knickers in a twist over this, all the while people are dying for want of water, medicines, and violence on a grand scale, in many parts of our world. what is it that so pisses you off about what a stupid paper says,
emmie
So - we are in agreement. There is no dignity in trashing someone's who has died, no matter what their politics are.
And to say that a man who fought for our liberty hated Britain, left a 'legacy of evil' and to publish a picture of his grave with the words 'grave socialist', and then to infiltrate his brother's memorial is just plain crazy.
Remember - so many of the people celebrating Thatcher's death were ignorant students...people who were too young to remember Thatcher.
But this is the Daily Mail!!!
It's a newspaper.
It should act with a level of dignity above that of a bunch of drunks.
So - we are in agreement. There is no dignity in trashing someone's who has died, no matter what their politics are.
And to say that a man who fought for our liberty hated Britain, left a 'legacy of evil' and to publish a picture of his grave with the words 'grave socialist', and then to infiltrate his brother's memorial is just plain crazy.
Remember - so many of the people celebrating Thatcher's death were ignorant students...people who were too young to remember Thatcher.
But this is the Daily Mail!!!
It's a newspaper.
It should act with a level of dignity above that of a bunch of drunks.
Lady Thatcher was a divisive personality; but she is either admired or detested because of her *own* actions/policies.
Personally, I found the jubilant celebrations of her death pretty distasteful.
However, the DM has used his father (an academic who 'held views' rather than made policy) as a large blunt object with which to bludgeon Ed Miliband.
A disgraceful display by a National newspaper; although I think we'll need to be wearing thermals in Hell before they issue anything resembling an apology.
Personally, I found the jubilant celebrations of her death pretty distasteful.
However, the DM has used his father (an academic who 'held views' rather than made policy) as a large blunt object with which to bludgeon Ed Miliband.
A disgraceful display by a National newspaper; although I think we'll need to be wearing thermals in Hell before they issue anything resembling an apology.
AOG
You wrote:
Your figures prove nothing, perhaps one could say that 69% of the nation lean to the left and a large proportion of the 57% readership could also be left leaning.
Which is the first time someone's actually challenged the figures - and you might actually be right about the first part.
What percentage voted Conservative at the last elections? I believe it was in the low to mid 30s?
That means statistically, that the rest of the country is either left, or left-leaning...which could explain the figures.
However, with regards to the proprtion of Mail readers being left-leaning...the jury is out on that.
Anyway...you don't have to be left-leaning to have found the original article offensive.
You wrote:
Your figures prove nothing, perhaps one could say that 69% of the nation lean to the left and a large proportion of the 57% readership could also be left leaning.
Which is the first time someone's actually challenged the figures - and you might actually be right about the first part.
What percentage voted Conservative at the last elections? I believe it was in the low to mid 30s?
That means statistically, that the rest of the country is either left, or left-leaning...which could explain the figures.
However, with regards to the proprtion of Mail readers being left-leaning...the jury is out on that.
Anyway...you don't have to be left-leaning to have found the original article offensive.
sp1814
/// emmie ///
/// Don't lie. ///
/// I rarely post links to the Daily Mail. ///
/// AOG started that particular lie. ///
That was not a lie, you have admitted yourself that you 'RARELY' post links to the Daily Mail, so that means that you 'SOMETIMES DO', therefore one is correct in stating that you are among the Daily Mail readership.
/// emmie ///
/// Don't lie. ///
/// I rarely post links to the Daily Mail. ///
/// AOG started that particular lie. ///
That was not a lie, you have admitted yourself that you 'RARELY' post links to the Daily Mail, so that means that you 'SOMETIMES DO', therefore one is correct in stating that you are among the Daily Mail readership.
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