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Absolutely, sp.
Looks disarmingly charming, doesn't he?
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Not all monsters look and dress like the Bogie Man.
Looks disarmingly charming, doesn't he?
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Not all monsters look and dress like the Bogie Man.
Me too Chill
and the Glitter Band deserve a break
If it's any comfort Chill, a colleague worked with Gadd in the 80s/90s and knew him quite well. He asserts that though Gadd was a saddo, and considers him capable of having images, he can't believe the allegations of physical abuse were anything more than a frame up.
Just his opinion...
and the Glitter Band deserve a break
If it's any comfort Chill, a colleague worked with Gadd in the 80s/90s and knew him quite well. He asserts that though Gadd was a saddo, and considers him capable of having images, he can't believe the allegations of physical abuse were anything more than a frame up.
Just his opinion...
dunnitall, animals DO behave in similar ways. Do not open this link if easily upset over cuddly animals.
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Chilldoubt - "Not sure who they are but I think you'll find when it comes to crimes of this nature, there'd be more than two people outraged and sickened.
Or have you a vested interest as you've interviewed him in the past?"
"I'm still waiting for andy to further enlighten us, given that he posted the exact same post on a similar thread, but I won't hold my breath.
Maybe he feels a little sad that someone he admired or has possibly interviewed has pleaded guilty to one ot the most heinous crimes imaginable."
First of all, apologies for the delay, I am still at work, and have been busy.
One point at a time - I don't doubt that anyone would be outraged and sickened by the details of this case, but that is not the point I was addressing.
My point was that any crime similar to this brings a hige wave of posts from AB'ers seemingly trying to outdo each other with their sense of outrage, and willingness to dispatch summary punishment, under the guise of 'justice' - the aforementioned 'Self-Righteous Brothers'.
My position is that I avoid such grandstanding because it is poitnless, and helps no-one. People are already outraged and angry, and do not need further stoking of their ire by such pontificating.
I am unsure what you mean by the phrase 'vested interest' because I have met (but not interviewed) Watkins in the past. I have also interviewed Gary Glitter, but i don't have a 'vested interest' - what ever that may mean, in his crimes either.
I do not 'feel sad that someone I have admired has admitted to these crimes' as you put it.
I am not a particular fan of the band in general, or their singer specifically, but as far as I am concerned, liking their music is not connected with my reaction to this news.
For the record, lest anyone be in any doubt - as the father of three daughters, and grandfather to five more children, my immediate basic reaction would be to cut this man into one-inch cubes with a rusty tin lid.
Because we live in a civilsed society, I must leave is fate in the hands of the medical profession and the judiciary, as is entirely appropriate.
But that has not stopped me popping along to the toilets in my building to shut myself away and cry some tears of impotent rage and sheer anguish at what I have heard.
I am a parent and grandparent first, and a music journalist second, and my connection with either has minimal bearing on this thread - except to say that i am unable to dwell on it for more than a few minutes without getting a severe headache becuase of repressed emotion.
Those who post on here about 'pulling the lever' or 'letting him lose with other prisoners' should not imagine for one moment that their posturing guff somehow sets them aside as chiefs of revenge and outrage - it does not.
Hope that's cleared up any lingering questions, but if you have more, please post away - always happy to respond.
Or have you a vested interest as you've interviewed him in the past?"
"I'm still waiting for andy to further enlighten us, given that he posted the exact same post on a similar thread, but I won't hold my breath.
Maybe he feels a little sad that someone he admired or has possibly interviewed has pleaded guilty to one ot the most heinous crimes imaginable."
First of all, apologies for the delay, I am still at work, and have been busy.
One point at a time - I don't doubt that anyone would be outraged and sickened by the details of this case, but that is not the point I was addressing.
My point was that any crime similar to this brings a hige wave of posts from AB'ers seemingly trying to outdo each other with their sense of outrage, and willingness to dispatch summary punishment, under the guise of 'justice' - the aforementioned 'Self-Righteous Brothers'.
My position is that I avoid such grandstanding because it is poitnless, and helps no-one. People are already outraged and angry, and do not need further stoking of their ire by such pontificating.
I am unsure what you mean by the phrase 'vested interest' because I have met (but not interviewed) Watkins in the past. I have also interviewed Gary Glitter, but i don't have a 'vested interest' - what ever that may mean, in his crimes either.
I do not 'feel sad that someone I have admired has admitted to these crimes' as you put it.
I am not a particular fan of the band in general, or their singer specifically, but as far as I am concerned, liking their music is not connected with my reaction to this news.
For the record, lest anyone be in any doubt - as the father of three daughters, and grandfather to five more children, my immediate basic reaction would be to cut this man into one-inch cubes with a rusty tin lid.
Because we live in a civilsed society, I must leave is fate in the hands of the medical profession and the judiciary, as is entirely appropriate.
But that has not stopped me popping along to the toilets in my building to shut myself away and cry some tears of impotent rage and sheer anguish at what I have heard.
I am a parent and grandparent first, and a music journalist second, and my connection with either has minimal bearing on this thread - except to say that i am unable to dwell on it for more than a few minutes without getting a severe headache becuase of repressed emotion.
Those who post on here about 'pulling the lever' or 'letting him lose with other prisoners' should not imagine for one moment that their posturing guff somehow sets them aside as chiefs of revenge and outrage - it does not.
Hope that's cleared up any lingering questions, but if you have more, please post away - always happy to respond.
For the record, lest anyone be in any doubt - as the father of three daughters, and grandfather to five more children, my immediate basic reaction would be to cut this man into one-inch cubes with a rusty tin lid.
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Yes, you've said similar before. Nobody on that thread (poor April Jones thread I believe) had advocated anything as extreme as that though, nor had they on this before you posted or since, which made it all the more perplexing.
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Yes, you've said similar before. Nobody on that thread (poor April Jones thread I believe) had advocated anything as extreme as that though, nor had they on this before you posted or since, which made it all the more perplexing.
Chilldoubt - "Had a similar dilemma with one Paul Gadd. Decided (rightly or wrongly) to let Leader of the Gang stay in my 70's playlist."
Rightly in my view.
It is possible, and desireable, to separate the art from the artist - otherwise Vaughan Williams would not enjoy the enviable reputation he has as a composer, if his status was based on his personality, which apparently left a lot to be desired.
Similarly, the magnificence of the music of Wagner should not be tainted by the fact that he was a raving anti-Semite whose works remain un-performed in isreal to this day.
I am a great fan of Gary Glitter's music, and i am sorry that his excellent singles are not playable at the occasional party discos I do for friends - but I do still play his work at home, and enjoy it, trying to avoid thinking about his crimes, which are not in my view connected with his work as a musician.
Rightly in my view.
It is possible, and desireable, to separate the art from the artist - otherwise Vaughan Williams would not enjoy the enviable reputation he has as a composer, if his status was based on his personality, which apparently left a lot to be desired.
Similarly, the magnificence of the music of Wagner should not be tainted by the fact that he was a raving anti-Semite whose works remain un-performed in isreal to this day.
I am a great fan of Gary Glitter's music, and i am sorry that his excellent singles are not playable at the occasional party discos I do for friends - but I do still play his work at home, and enjoy it, trying to avoid thinking about his crimes, which are not in my view connected with his work as a musician.
ChillDoubt - "For the record, lest anyone be in any doubt - as the father of three daughters, and grandfather to five more children, my immediate basic reaction would be to cut this man into one-inch cubes with a rusty tin lid.
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Yes, you've said similar before. Nobody on that thread (poor April Jones thread I believe) had advocated anything as extreme as that though, nor had they on this before you posted or since, which made it all the more perplexing."
The point I am trying to raise, by using a more extreme version of 'punishment' as an example, is that anyone with a heart and soul would feel equal amounts of anguish and anger at this man's horrible crimes.
My issue is that spouting vein-throbbing threats and wishes on here helps no-one, and yet these threads create such a reaction every time.
My point is that because people rant on here does not make them any more angry or upset or vengeful because of the degree of their posturing - it simply makes them self-righteous, and helps no-one at all.
That is why I always revert to my favourite 'revenge' scenario, simply because it is more extreme, and hopefully points out that extremity is not a barometer of sincerity - the point I am aiming to get across.
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Yes, you've said similar before. Nobody on that thread (poor April Jones thread I believe) had advocated anything as extreme as that though, nor had they on this before you posted or since, which made it all the more perplexing."
The point I am trying to raise, by using a more extreme version of 'punishment' as an example, is that anyone with a heart and soul would feel equal amounts of anguish and anger at this man's horrible crimes.
My issue is that spouting vein-throbbing threats and wishes on here helps no-one, and yet these threads create such a reaction every time.
My point is that because people rant on here does not make them any more angry or upset or vengeful because of the degree of their posturing - it simply makes them self-righteous, and helps no-one at all.
That is why I always revert to my favourite 'revenge' scenario, simply because it is more extreme, and hopefully points out that extremity is not a barometer of sincerity - the point I am aiming to get across.
and i am sorry that his excellent singles are not playable at the occasional party discos I do for friends
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I can sympathise. Among our group of friends was one who, after a couple of beers at engagement parties, weddings etc would get up and give his own renditon of Leader of the Gang, with all the pomp and swaggering.
It invariably brought the house down every time.
Sadly, it'll never be seen again.
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I can sympathise. Among our group of friends was one who, after a couple of beers at engagement parties, weddings etc would get up and give his own renditon of Leader of the Gang, with all the pomp and swaggering.
It invariably brought the house down every time.
Sadly, it'll never be seen again.
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