Another Blinder From The Religion Of Peace!

[ToraToraTora]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-26397602
What have they got against polio vaccination? Perhaps if Allah could be persuaded to clear up the disease then the vaccinations would not be necessary.

[emmie]

the reds are no longer under the bed, they are out in force about to roll over on the Ukraine, as to Muslims, look at footage, it's not one little place, but many, and those in Britain who profess they want Sharia Law in UK do themselves no favours, they give the voice to many across the globe, their will is all and be damned to others.

[emmie]

reds under the bed is a term for Communism, and that doctrine has killed billions, in China, Russia, North Korea, anywhere it landed. Policy on all walks of making the people think, act alike, that means you stifle creativity, business, art music, the People's Republic of China is just one,
not sure why you used that term. as to Christian fundamentalism, Islam makes them look like sane inmates in an insane asylum

[Gromit]

Perhaps if we stopped invading their lands, deposing their leaders, and generally stopped screwing up their countries, they might just leave us alone.

If the CIA use doctors as camaflage for their spies then it is the CIA who are hampering the medical programmes.

[emmie]

oh that old chestnut, don't you think that if we had never stepped inside any of these countries we still wouldn't be held to account, and if they ask the west for help, which many do, then why should the west always be to blame when it goes belly up. We get caught in these conflicts for that reason, all it does it get our servicemen and women killed. Those who bleat on and on about how we stand by and let Syrians die by the thousands, will be the same ones who condemn our military when they cause civilian deaths.

[jomifl]

There are far more muslim 'invaders' (aka immigrants) in the non-muslim workd than vice versa.,

[emmie]

please supply some evidence they do they, and by the way, how many aid workers have died in the last say 10 years, how many gave their lives to help others, not just aid workers from the UK, but across the globe, i wonder, because if these people want to stop polio vaccinations because of some hoary old reason, superstitions, and backwards thinking then let them. You just can't have your cake and eat it. When we help we are imperialists, when we don't, we are cold hearted bstards.

[Peter Pedant]

There is a lot more predestination in Islam - God's will - so you have to combat the idea that it is Gods will that my grand daughter gets polio and is paralysed against it is God's will that she is vaccinated.

Unpronounceable got bin Laden's DNA by pretending to mount a vaccination campaign in Islamabad - but used Hep C vaccine. Ho hum so they say.

Usual tension in - is a Hospital the first stop to a Police Station ?

[emmie]

you cannot combat that kind of thinking, nor should we try.

[Peter Pedant]

Emmie - you only need to kill a few vaccinators to get the charities to abandon the effort.

I think they abandoned vaccination in Aghanistan after just one Landrover was machine-gunned. The muslim driver was spared as one would expect.
The last [ comforting ] words the vaccinators heard were: you are trying to convert our families to Christianity....

[ladybirder]

You're firing on all cylinders this morning Em, go girl.

[jomifl]

The Arabs invaded North Africa to spread their beliefs and the will of allah. I doubt that most of their victims of the time had even heard of them before they walked through the front door, scimitar in hand.

[Peter Pedant]

Khandro on a point of order - the Hundred Y War 1337 - 1453 or thereabouts did NOT end in 1396 with Richard II's marriage to Isabella

sorry

Henry VIII's first bride Katherine of Aragon had been married to Arthur when she was ooo 12 or thereabouts - if that is any help.

[Khandro]

This is becoming the most bizarre thread for some time!
P.P. I said it was the 'expectation' that R.11's marriage would end the 100 years war was the cause for the rejoicing.

[keyplus90]

///Why don't you tell us what you think of radical Islamists - you know, the people who think that Islam will someday dominate the rest of us?///

Naomi - you asked me two questions here. And here are the answers. Please make a note and I will save this thread as well.

1 - Radical Islamist - If you mean by radical Islamist the people who kill anyone apart from the ones who have invaded their country and are trying to kill them, then they should all be wiped out, given severest punishment possible as they have nothing to do with Islam or its teachings.

2 - Islamic domination- Yes Islam (real Islam) will dominate the world one day as that is the only perfect way of life whether you agree with it or you don’t. A huge number of people accepting and entering into Islam at a time when the propaganda against Islam is at the highest is the clear evidence of the practicality of its teachings. But before that Muslims will have to act upon Islam the way it should be acted upon instead of trying to copy the different systems in the world that have clearly been a failure.

Now you asked the questions and I gave you the answer and I have no doubt that you would not agree with even a fraction of it. But that would be your opinion and you have a right to have whatever opinion you would like to. I will not go into debate on this as I have stopped wasting time when it comes to a handful people.

[RATTER15]

Keyplus. "Islamic domination- Yes Islam (real Islam) will dominate the world one day as that is the only perfect way of life whether you agree with it or you don’t."

You think all the murder, abuse of Women and paedophilia associated with Islam is perfect!!

You are one sick cookie!!!

[keyplus90]

////There is a lot more predestination in Islam - God's will - so you have to combat the idea that it is Gods will that my grand daughter gets polio and is paralysed against it is God's will that she is vaccinated.////

Peter – As I Muslim I will not agree with that. That might be Christian philosophy or the philosophy of any other religion but not Islam. Islamic philosophy is that a person must do everything humanly possible he/she can do and then and only then should accepted whatever the outcome is as God Will. Now if someone goes and stands in the middle of a railway track where a train is approaching at 125miles/hour and say it is God’s will then that could be anything else but Islam.

[keyplus90]

///You think all the murder, abuse of Women and paedophilia associated with Islam is perfect!!///

Narrow minded people again.

[RATTER15]

Nice cop out Keyplus!!

[jomifl]

Ratter, you must learn to be more broad minded like Keyplus, :o).