Another B+B Tries To Break The Law.

[mikey4444]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-26658486

Despite the case in Cornwall going against the Bulls, another couple want to break anti-discrimination laws. Why are people like this so terribly interested in what people do it bed ?

[ummmm]

Common sense, AOG, common sense. Something that you seem to be lacking today.

[jackthehat]

I know because I have often asked that myself, been asked that myself and heard others ask........

Good enough?

[ummmm]

And I was brought up in a pub and have worked in many others so take it as an educated guess.

[Mamyalynne]

'Common sense', I gave up on the hope on that on this topic pages ago.

[Mamyalynne]

'hope of that' ^

[New Judge]

You do not seem confused at all, whiskeyron. Religious organisations have, for the moment, been given a free pass to discriminate against gay people who might want to marry in one of their establishments. They can refuse on religious grounds. My suggestion is that this arrangement will be outlawed as soon as it is challenged, certainly as far as the CofE is concerned (because it is a State institution) and quite possibly as far as other religious outfits are concerned as well (because the exception to the law which allows such discrimination was provided by the State).

[pixie373]

Religion is no excuse for discrimination. You have the choice whether to believe it or not.

[neil42]

Why don't people just go to an establishment that caters for there needs.If a particular b&b dosent allow gays,un married couples,little green men from mars,then just go to one that does!!!!!,is that so hard.Some timesi think people go out of their way to be offended.:-/.

[lady-janine]

if you can bar people from a pub, a restaurant or a shop because they are not desirable then you should be able to bar them from what is, not only a place of business, but also your home. it is possibel to tell a person (stranger or neighbour) that you do not want them in your home so you can do that under these circumstances as far as i can see. why is there a problem. i would not want to stay where i was unwelcome so why do theses people want to. perfectly pig-headed and ridiculous. they need a lesson in manners.

[sp1814]

neil42

Because we don"t want to return to the 50s perhaps?

It would be like telling Rosa Parks, "What's your problem? You can still ride the bus, but because you're black, you can't sit there..."

Not good.

[Svejk]

This constant 'martyrdom', making mountains out of mole-hills and belief that the whole world revolves around the rights of the homosexual community makes even the most easy going of people ie.me, sometimes, yearn for a return to the fifties.
It would justify the persecution complex the gay community seem to wollow in and give the rest of us 10 minutes peace from hearing about their 'issues'.

[lady-janine]

it appears to me that it is not homosexuals and lesbians that are being persecuted.

[pixie373]

They only want a place to stay- which they'll pay for. If they were "undesirable" ie drunk/causing mayhem, that would be different and they could be refused just like anyone else. I'm really surprised people think it's fair enough to say "go somewhere else". What if 90% of B&B owners decide the same? It's just bullying for the sake of it.

[emmie]

if something is enshrined in law, the it's very difficult for anyone to nay say it. I have some sympathy for those people who's beliefs bring them into direct confrontation with the law, like the B&B owners, and i do think that Christianity whilst it often shoots itself in the foot, gets the role of patsy, because try as i might, other religious adherents may well bar gays on any number of grounds, but you don't hear as much about that, or anything at all, there must be Sikhs, Hindus, Jews, Muslims who own B&B's or other establishments which would exclude gays. I recall posting a link to a website for rental properties, flats, rooms to let, all the ads said for Muslims only, which i would have thought just as discriminatory.
its unlikely we would ever go back to the days of no blacks, Irish, dogs, those days are well and truly over.

[pixie373]

I had thought so, emmie. But reading this thread makes me think there is still some way to go.

[emmie]

we have made huge inroads, thank goodness. I still have a smidgen of sympathy however, as to those who say why go into that business,
the laws that have come into play were not around when they opened them presumably.

[Svejk]

good point, emmie. the 'right on' community, once again, display an appalling lack of empathy in their rush to espouse 'liberal' causes.

[emmie]

i have empathy, sympathy for both, both are right, and both are wrong, neither will win, because the B&B people will look like discriminatory backwards fools and the gay couple will look as though they are pushing the agenda, however its the law, so in truth the gay couple have the law on their side, if the B&B people win, seems unlikely, will this mean that other establishments could choose to discriminate against gays, there is the problem, because that is not what one would want.

I do take issue over comments right at the start of this thread by
SP, who said that some clubs, places discriminate against heterosexuals, on the grounds they may become aggressive if they get hit on by a gay man, really, most i know wouldn't do that, they would either get up and leave, or say a polite no thank you, i'm straight.

back in the days of endless clubbing, many girls i came across assumed i was gay, and got hit on often, i am not, but i didn't take umbrage, why would i.

[pixie373]

Svejk- it's not "liberal" for decent people to have the same rights. We aren't talking about criminals here.

[emmie]

no we are not, but i do find that these days, and i am not just talking of gay people, rights come into play, my rights to this and my rights to that, without thought that we all have to jostle along together, my rights shouldn't impact, impinge on others, after all smokers had rights, to smoke in a pub, club, hotel, now they don't, because other people didn't want it, and the rights of the cycling lobby, is becoming ever more vocal, what they want, and so forth, there has to be a balance for the good of all.