Max Clifford Sentencing

[Jomlett]

the first count of indecent assault, which the jury failed to find a verdict on, will not be pursued for a retrial.

The count will lie on file.

This count related to an assault on a 14-year-old girl in Clifford's car in 1966.

[hc4361]

He will definitely appeal and will in probability win on at least some of the verdicts.

[Bazile]

//I liked China Doll's comment a few days ago after Max was found guilty, when someone asked if we would be writing a book about his time in jail, she replied along the lines of he'll need a good publicist like, err, well.... //

A lot of people have used that one , alba

[berniecuddles]

Albs not seen peas for days think i scared her off

[berniecuddles]

oh dear wrong thread very sorry

[sunny-dave]

The man is a vile scumbag - it embarrasses me to admit to being a member of the same species.

I do however have a horrid feeling that 'scores are being settled' with this trial/sentence - the actual offences (serious though they are) are just a peg to hang some revenge on.

I expect a series of successful appeals against some/all of the convictions and (in the light of some seriously stupid comments by the judge) against the sentence.

I doubt he'll serve 8 months, let alone 8 years.

[hc4361]

I agree, sunny-dave.

Some of those crimes he's been found guilty of would not have got to court at the time, especially if there was only one accuser.

[jno]

don't give up hope, sunny dave; extraordinary crimes get extraordinary comments. Lack of remorse is usually a factor in sentencing.

What I'm not sure of is the rationale in deciding whether sentences should be concurrent or consecutive, but I don't see that the judge has got it wrong.

From the Guardian: "Clifford will automatically go on the sex offender register for life, which will mean that when he is released he will only be able to live at an approved address and will have to notify authorities of his movements, including travel abroad. Other restrictions could include compulsory sex offender treatment, a ban on contacting his victims or anyone under 18, a night-time curfew, notifying the authorities of any new relationship and a ban on using the internet."

[pips1]

He made himself look ridiculous the way he crept up behind that reporter, what an arrogant unrepentant man!

[jno]

hc4361, that may be so; it was - it turned out - his ill fortune to get away with it for so long that all the offences could be considered at once, and a common pattern of behaviour could be seen.

[jomifl]

Getting away with it for so long contributed to his downfall ironically, since all his accusers described the same modus operandi without resort to collusion. If they had been dealt with separatey he would have got the benefit of doubt.

[Stargazer]

He brought this upon himself and would have got away with all his crimes had he not been so utterly arrogant and believed himself to be untochable. It was because he pontificated in late 2012 over the Jimmy Savile case stating so arrogantly that it was not unusual for young male celebrities to respond to the very young fans throwing themseklves at them and nobody expected to have to ask the age of the girls. His quotes are there to be seen and his victims read and heard them which would have stuck in their craw. They were incensed enough fortunately to eventually come forward en masse. There are others even now who have decided to come forward since the day's sentencing.

[mikey4444]

Even if he only serves a few months, its about the only thing that has wiped that smirk of his face.

But ...breaking news...see this ::::

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-27265696

Seems like for Clifford, this may only be the beginning of his woes.

[Svejk]

/// There are others even now who have decided to come forward since the day's sentencing. ///

they would, wouldn't they.

[ummmm]

Do you really think that someone who thinks it's acceptable to sexually abuse people limits the number of their victims?

How do you know others have come forward since sentencing?

[mikey4444]

I seem to recall that exactly the same thing happened with Stuart Hall.

He was recalled from prison and on 23 October 2013 the CPS announced that Hall was to be charged with a further 15 offences of rape and one of indecent assault upon two girls between 1976 and 1981.

[sir.prize]

CPS must be highly relieved they have finally got their first Operation Yewtree conviction at last. So many failures gone before.

[whirlyhurly]

Well done to all those at the CPS.

[kvalidir]

I'm very pleased this bullying toad has been brought down a peg and received a sentence fitting his crimes. For anyone interested in exactly what he did do (because so many people seem to think historical abuse shouldn't be pursued), here is the Judge's remarks during sentencing.http://www.judiciary.gov.uk/Resources/JCO/Documents/Judgments/sentencing-remarks-hhj-leonard-r-v-clifford.pdf

[kvalidir]

http://www.judiciary.gov.uk/Resources/JCO/Documents/Judgments/sentencing-remarks-hhj-leonard-r-v-clifford.pdf