Ukip Surge Brings Four-Party Politics To Britain.

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Labour is struggling to make progress and the Tory vote is falling back and heavier losses for the Lib Dems.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27531094

[LyndaB]

If any of you are on twitter (sorry don't know how to put a link on here) have a look at #whyimvotingukip (or something like that). Farage is no laughing matter, but some of these have made me hoot.

[mikey4444]

Losing yesterday's Local Elections naomi !

[naomi24]

But Mikey, you've been banging on about how Ukip will take votes from the Conservatives for goodness knows how long. No one is surprised. What's to defend? We all know this is a protest vote - and you know it too - unless you're kidding yourself that everyone loves Labour.

[royfromaus]

The scores on the doors at 12.14 are as follows ::

UKIP....+ 91.............0..councils



mikey, I told you at 09:27 that UKIP were +97 How have they managed to lose seats?

[mikey4444]

That was a typo roy...I am using the BBC website figures and will continue to do so all day. All the different sources will agree in the end but I am like a stick of BBC rock...cut me in half and BBC will appear, all the way through.

Small differences don't matter...Labour won yesterday and dave lost !

[royfromaus]

Labour won yesterday and dave lost !


So you are happy for Labour to plod on as it is and not have a rethink about its strategy?

[ludwig]

These election results are merely a distraction from the important business of the latest ugov poll percentages. I'll be glad when we can get back to studying those.

[royfromaus]

lol ^

[Svejk]

4 out of 7 agree with ludwig

[mikey4444]

No of course not Roy...nothing I have typed has said this today. All I am trying to do is to restore the balance of views on yesterdays Poll. To listen to the media today, you would have thought that UKIP had won and Labour had lost, which just isn't true. UKIP have done well, in that they have made good gains, but not as good gains as Labour have. Labour now control 49 out of 79 councils declared.

Both the main serious parties need to reassess their position and their polices on a regular basis, and they always do after every election. I am sure that dave, as well as Ed, are sitting down with the pointy heads in their parties and discussing what to do for the next 11-12 months.

[mikey4444]

SP...no post-election Polls available from YouGov yet, but there will be this weekend...watch this space !

[royfromaus]

UKIP have done well, in that they have made good gains, but not as good gains as Labour have.


How do you work that out?

[mikey4444]

Roy..are you being deliberately obtuse !

As of a few mins ago, according to my favourite website, Labour gained 168 seats yesterday, and UKIP gained 101. Yes, in percentage terms, UKIP have done well, as they have made a big increase, but they still don't control a single Council, nor do they have any MPs yet.

[royfromaus]

Are you being deliberately blinkered?
Protest vote or not, UKIP are the big winners.

As generally only one third of seats on councils are up for grabs, it would be almost impossible for UKIP to gain control of a council. Rotherm would most certainly have fell if all seats were up for grabs.

[royfromaus]

"Yes, in percentage terms, UKIP have done well,"



In % terms they are off the Richter scale. Farage predicted a political earthquake, and got one.

[ChillDoubt]

Earthquake? At this rate it ought to be considered that he's moved a tectonic plate!

It's funny hearing Miliband and Clegg talking about how it's clear there is a lot of disaffection and they now need to focus on that. It's been building for months, yet they did f£$% all about it other than make snide remarks!
They're now going to reap the whirlwind.

[Gromit]

Just looked up the 2009 result (a year before the election).
The Daily Mail called it a meltdown for Labour.
The Telegraph said Cameron had triumphed.

Labour yesterday gained more seats and took more councils than the Conservatives did then, and yet some are trying to say it was a bad result for Labour.

[ChillDoubt]

It's still been percieved as a poor show for Labour though Gromit:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/local-elections/10851132/Elections-2014-Ed-Miliband-attacked-over-lacklustre-campaign.html

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/local-elections-results-2014-ed-miliband-attacked-by-his-own-mps-after-disappointing-returns-9427913.html

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"The Labour Deputy leader lost his seat. He had been suspended for several months accused of protecting his cousin who was one of the guilty in the Rotherham Child sex case."

What is it with Labour and committing crime. Seems every month members of this ghastly party are suspended or under investigation for crime - fraud - racism and so on. Institionally corrupt.

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January.
Mohammed and Naseem Ayub were suspended by the Luton Labour Party following allegations surrounding comments reportedly made on social media.Bedfordshire Police confirmed at the time of the suspension that they are investigating potential offences related to the suspension, involving an allegation of unauthorised access under the Computer Misuse Act 1990 and an allegation of sending an offensive communication or inciting racial hatred, under the Malicious Communications Act 1988