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Why Did Ukip Fare (Relatively) Badly In London?
A greater number of liberal 'chatterati'
A recognition that UKIP don't represent the voice of London?
Fear that some of us will lose our EU home help?
Or a conspiracy amongst the Guardianistas?
Or a disgusting streak of common sense?
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A recognition that UKIP don't represent the voice of London?
Fear that some of us will lose our EU home help?
Or a conspiracy amongst the Guardianistas?
Or a disgusting streak of common sense?
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Perhaps other anti-EU parties fared better in London than elsewhere, splitting the anti-EU vote?
As an aside I've just taken a look at the parties who put candidates forward in London, which is quite a bit different to the list of parties who were seeking votes here in the Eastern Region. I note that one party (with just one candidate) appended a policy description to its title on ballot papers, reading "Zero-Immigration, More Jobs, Anti-Globalization". The name of that party calling for 'zero immigration' is the Harmony Party. Perhaps someone should send them a dictionary?
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As an aside I've just taken a look at the parties who put candidates forward in London, which is quite a bit different to the list of parties who were seeking votes here in the Eastern Region. I note that one party (with just one candidate) appended a policy description to its title on ballot papers, reading "Zero-Immigration, More Jobs, Anti-Globalization". The name of that party calling for 'zero immigration' is the Harmony Party. Perhaps someone should send them a dictionary?
;-)
Despite their hype that UKiP is stealing Labour votes as well as Conservative ones, the truth is they aren't. They failed to dent Labour in London and I have just just looked up results for Greater Manchester, and UKiP have not done well here. Across Manchester, Oldham, Stockport, Wigan, Salford, Bury, I can find only two new UKiP councillors, and one of those was a gain from the LibDems.
Certainly in the Cities, which are Labour strongholds, the UKiP earthquake appears to have hit a brick wall. It would be interesting to see a map of where the UKiP gains are.
Certainly in the Cities, which are Labour strongholds, the UKiP earthquake appears to have hit a brick wall. It would be interesting to see a map of where the UKiP gains are.
My own borough returned no UKiP councillors bringing heir total on the council to zero.
I have just looked up Basildon in Essex where UkiP did well. It was a solid Consetvative borough and UKiP took 7 seats off the Conservatives, 3 from Labour and 1 from the LibDems.
It is clear that UKiP are taking most of their votes from people who formerly voted Conservative. Bad news for the Tories, but not great news either for Labour.
I have just looked up Basildon in Essex where UkiP did well. It was a solid Consetvative borough and UKiP took 7 seats off the Conservatives, 3 from Labour and 1 from the LibDems.
It is clear that UKiP are taking most of their votes from people who formerly voted Conservative. Bad news for the Tories, but not great news either for Labour.
Gromit...right of course !
I notice that there is still a scarcity of right-wingers here on AB defending the Tories abysmal performance. As of a few minutes ago, the Tories have lost 201 seats. Yet all the negative concentration in the media is on Labour, who gained 292 seats ! How badly would dave have to do to get noticed ?
I notice that there is still a scarcity of right-wingers here on AB defending the Tories abysmal performance. As of a few minutes ago, the Tories have lost 201 seats. Yet all the negative concentration in the media is on Labour, who gained 292 seats ! How badly would dave have to do to get noticed ?
naomi24
Whilst I don't believe that UKIP as a party are openly racist or xenophobic, I think one could argue that they enjoy support both from people who are genuinely concerned about the EU and the UK's current immigration policy AND people who are racist, sexist and homophobic.
Nigel Farage has explained this last point by pointing to the fact that it's okay for older people to be homophobic because they grew up in a different era. And if you look at the demographics of UKIP's proffered councillors, you can see that they lean towards older people.
I suspect it's a small minority of UKIP supports / councillors who are truly bigoted, but these seem to be the ones who garner most interest in the media and amongst those who do not support UKIP (not just the London 'chatterati).
I think there may be four t's in 'chatteratti'.
Not sure.
Whilst I don't believe that UKIP as a party are openly racist or xenophobic, I think one could argue that they enjoy support both from people who are genuinely concerned about the EU and the UK's current immigration policy AND people who are racist, sexist and homophobic.
Nigel Farage has explained this last point by pointing to the fact that it's okay for older people to be homophobic because they grew up in a different era. And if you look at the demographics of UKIP's proffered councillors, you can see that they lean towards older people.
I suspect it's a small minority of UKIP supports / councillors who are truly bigoted, but these seem to be the ones who garner most interest in the media and amongst those who do not support UKIP (not just the London 'chatterati).
I think there may be four t's in 'chatteratti'.
Not sure.
Naomi...handsome is as handsome does in my book. Farage and UKIP have constantly played the race card at every opportunity, and some of their candidates have been completely barking mad, which even apologists like you cannot seriously deny.
You talk as if I was the only one who holds these views, when they are widely held by many people. I have made my position on the rise of the Far Right many times here on AB, and I have no intention of pulling back now.
Perhaps we should agree to disagree on this issue.
You talk as if I was the only one who holds these views, when they are widely held by many people. I have made my position on the rise of the Far Right many times here on AB, and I have no intention of pulling back now.
Perhaps we should agree to disagree on this issue.
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