Am I Right To Be Feeling This Way?
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Why Did Ukip Fare (Relatively) Badly In London?
A greater number of liberal 'chatterati'
A recognition that UKIP don't represent the voice of London?
Fear that some of us will lose our EU home help?
Or a conspiracy amongst the Guardianistas?
Or a disgusting streak of common sense?
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A recognition that UKIP don't represent the voice of London?
Fear that some of us will lose our EU home help?
Or a conspiracy amongst the Guardianistas?
Or a disgusting streak of common sense?
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And this constant labelling of Londoners as 'the metropolitan elite' is quite baffling.
Sure, there are areas where you can't move for folk sitting crossed legged in bistros munching on beef carpaccio, but equally, there are areas in London where pound shops sit shoulder to shoulder with betting shops and nap bars.
I wonder if UKIP voters outside the capital think that London begins and ends on the borders of Islington?
Sure, there are areas where you can't move for folk sitting crossed legged in bistros munching on beef carpaccio, but equally, there are areas in London where pound shops sit shoulder to shoulder with betting shops and nap bars.
I wonder if UKIP voters outside the capital think that London begins and ends on the borders of Islington?
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mikey4444
A chain of nap bars called Snooze.
They would sell warm chocolate liqueur drinks, hot toddies and in the background, soothing 50s jazz would be played.
Mobile phones would be banned, and rather than chairs and tables, the furniture would consist of bean bags with big soft duvets strewn about the place.
I...am...going...to...make...a...fortune.
A chain of nap bars called Snooze.
They would sell warm chocolate liqueur drinks, hot toddies and in the background, soothing 50s jazz would be played.
Mobile phones would be banned, and rather than chairs and tables, the furniture would consist of bean bags with big soft duvets strewn about the place.
I...am...going...to...make...a...fortune.
I am not a performing dog Roy, and I will answer your question if I choose to, or I may not. If I do decide to answer, it will be in my own good time...I have been rather busy here on AB this morning, as you can see !
But as you have politely asked again...yes of course I agree that we should control our borders, but I am sure it can be done without the overt xenophobia and racism that it UKIP's homeground.
But as you have politely asked again...yes of course I agree that we should control our borders, but I am sure it can be done without the overt xenophobia and racism that it UKIP's homeground.
The Euro elections may tell a different story, perhaps (although they are UKIP's big moment always anyway) but I'd challenge the notion that UKIP are causing a political earthquake. Not only did they fail to make much of an impression in Labour areas. Where they did best, especially in Essex, seems to have been places with large numbers of working class Tory (or dare I say it BNP) supporters.
Unlike the BNP though they made little headway in areas with large immigrant populations. Which is actually a little strange perhaps.
On the other hand, in our town and indeed county: dominated by LibDem and Tory councillors, largely white, middle class and not exactly young, prime UKIP territory you might think, there were few UKIP candidates, and none got anywhere near being elected. No earthquake here.
Unlike the BNP though they made little headway in areas with large immigrant populations. Which is actually a little strange perhaps.
On the other hand, in our town and indeed county: dominated by LibDem and Tory councillors, largely white, middle class and not exactly young, prime UKIP territory you might think, there were few UKIP candidates, and none got anywhere near being elected. No earthquake here.
I haven't read all the answers so apologies if I'm duplicating anything already said.
I think the main answer is that in London almost 40% of residents were born outside the UK. Those people are unlikely to vote for UKIP in the same way that turkeys are unlikely to vote for Christmas (especially if they have a number of family members waiting to join them).Couple this with the fact that in many areas of inner London voting anything other than Labour is just about the most serious form of heresy that can be committed apart from insulting the Prophet Mohammed and I think it‘s easy to see why Mr Farage and his mates have an uphill struggle in the capital where they will probably never make great inroads. It’s one of the “benefits” of the huge demographic change forced upon the capital mainly (though not entirely) between 1997 and 2010.
I think for Labour and Conservative supporters to argue over who won and lost on Thursday is a specious debate. All the main parties - especially the LibDems - lost, and lost heavily to a party described as “loonies and fruitcakes“. Still they find it more productive to argue over which of them suffered the worst losses. Instead of that they would do better to investigate quite why voters in their droves deserted them. These are the same voters whose fears and concerns were dismissed out of hand not many months ago.
I think the notion that people voting UKIP display a lack of common sense is somewhat insolent, sp. I don’t actually believe it displays too much common sense to pay >2m people to sit at home doing nothing whilst allowing hundreds of thousands of people to come to the UK (who all have to be housed, usually at considerable public expense) to do the work that they “will not do”. But I’d never say so.
My local ward elected UKIP councillors in two of its three seats. Many people in my area are old (as they are in most areas) but I would not say that they are particularly uneducated or uncultured. Once again, insolent jibes against an electorate who want something other than the status quo and for whom the main parties do not cater.
I think the main answer is that in London almost 40% of residents were born outside the UK. Those people are unlikely to vote for UKIP in the same way that turkeys are unlikely to vote for Christmas (especially if they have a number of family members waiting to join them).Couple this with the fact that in many areas of inner London voting anything other than Labour is just about the most serious form of heresy that can be committed apart from insulting the Prophet Mohammed and I think it‘s easy to see why Mr Farage and his mates have an uphill struggle in the capital where they will probably never make great inroads. It’s one of the “benefits” of the huge demographic change forced upon the capital mainly (though not entirely) between 1997 and 2010.
I think for Labour and Conservative supporters to argue over who won and lost on Thursday is a specious debate. All the main parties - especially the LibDems - lost, and lost heavily to a party described as “loonies and fruitcakes“. Still they find it more productive to argue over which of them suffered the worst losses. Instead of that they would do better to investigate quite why voters in their droves deserted them. These are the same voters whose fears and concerns were dismissed out of hand not many months ago.
I think the notion that people voting UKIP display a lack of common sense is somewhat insolent, sp. I don’t actually believe it displays too much common sense to pay >2m people to sit at home doing nothing whilst allowing hundreds of thousands of people to come to the UK (who all have to be housed, usually at considerable public expense) to do the work that they “will not do”. But I’d never say so.
My local ward elected UKIP councillors in two of its three seats. Many people in my area are old (as they are in most areas) but I would not say that they are particularly uneducated or uncultured. Once again, insolent jibes against an electorate who want something other than the status quo and for whom the main parties do not cater.
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