In Support Of Judy Finnengan

[ivor4781]

blasted out of all proportion!
i followed this case and it stank from the start,hoping justice for evans will take place, i have signed a petition for this (available on line.)
now, i have also commented on some items on this case of Evans and Finnegan in the "daily mail" ,(yes i know) not one of my support comments, 5 in all have got past the DM censor,its all against evans and Finnegan thats allowed to be published it seems

[ummmm]

Have a read of this thread..

http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/News/Question1372116.html

[ivor4781]

thanks ummmm
its the daily mail censor that *** off,

[Slapshot]

It may have been, but it's brought a subject that should never be trivialised to the fore. In my view she trivialised the "victims" situation, that was wrong

[janbee]

I agree with Slapshot .

[ivor4781]

maybe
but in my view if you read the case the "victim" brought about her own situation

[gness]

So you would take advantage of a girl for sex, Ivor?

[Barsel]

Well put gness.

[Slapshot]

Big sign above her head saying, I want to have sex with your pal but if you touch me I scream rape??? trivial isn't it!

If she said NO he should have backed away, it's not a hugely difficult word to understand, even for a footballist

[pixie373]

Lol. Still waiting for ivor's answer...

[ivor4781]

she was so called asleep it seem's non of you have actually read anything about this case,she had already had sex with one of the footballers
pixie ..lol

[ivor4781]

slapshot you obviously have'nt

[pixie373]

Only one?? Surely they all have a right to, then?

[Slapshot]

If she was asleep that makes it even worse in my view.....

She could have had a consensual orgy with half the team, the boot boys and the coaching staff Ivor, but if she said NO to one of them and he continued to have sex with her it's still rape.

[gness]

Ivor...I was so hoping you would answer....No of course not, Gness.

But the "lol"....you think this is funny?

[Slapshot]

Obviously you are assuming to know what I have and haven't read. I've read enough to know the case

[ABAuntie]

Please can we have a little calm.

I know it is a very emotive subject and worthy of debate so let's have a rational grown up discussion.

auntie xxx

[ivor4781]

The victim – who they had earlier seen falling over in a kebab shop after drinking wine, double vodkas with lemonade and a sambuca shot – had approached McDonald, and the pair took a taxi to his hotel.

When Evans entered the room, he found the pair having sex, and claimed McDonald asked if he wanted to have sex with the girl too, saying she had been ‘in control’ of herself.

Evans left the hotel via a fire escape shortly after having sex with her, later telling police he had been worried his girlfriend Natasha Massey would phone him and become suspicious.
Following the footballer’s rape conviction and five-year jail sentence in 2012, thousands of people – among them Evans’ friends and relatives – branded the victim a liar and named her on social media


The girl awoke the next morning, naked and alone, and told police the last thing she could remember was being in a takeaway.

McDonald was acquitted of rape by the jury at Caernarfon Crown Court, but Evans looked shocked as he was found guilty. He was told by the judge he ‘must have realised’ that she had been ‘in no condition to have sexual intercourse’.

not so clean cut in my opinion which is what this democratic society allows me say,except in the daily masil

[gness]

Auntie.....I was prompted by Ivor's comment at 12.48 to post a response to which I did want an answer....and I am not being childish on this...believe me.

[anotheoldgit]

Apparently from what I can gather Judy Finnengan didn't say anything that the judge had not already said.

[ivor4781]

extract from a report on the case