Attn. Aog.

[andy-hughes]

Good morning

Now the dust has settled on our last fall-out, and we have had time to calm down and reflect, I would like to extend the hand of friendship once again, and offer my apologies for any offence caused during our last few heated exchanges.

Life is too short to bear grudges, and we are too old and experienced to allow ourselves to behave in a less than mature and civilised fashion.

We have always climbed over our anger with each other, drawn a line, and moved on, and I hope we can do so once again.

Best,

A-H.

[TWR]

It takes guts to Apologise Andy, I admire that.

[bhg481]

I'll second TWR.

[andy-hughes]

Thank you both, I appreciate your comments.

AOG and I differ in most of our views, but we are entirely similar in the passion and commitment with which we express and defend them.

This can - and has - lead to us getting a little carried away, although I know that neither of us bears any serious malice towards the other, and I am confident that my old sparring partner will be re-joining me in the debates when he logs on today.

[RandyMarsh]

You two should just kiss and get it over with.

[TWR]

We all have a difference of opinion Andy, It's when the clever / snide / sarci replies that are delivered that annoys.

[andy-hughes]

RandyMarsh - "You two should just kiss and get it over with."

Steady on!

[andy-hughes]

TWR - "We all have a difference of opinion Andy, It's when the clever / snide / sarci replies that are delivered that annoys."

No argument there - although I am sure you will agree that being clever snide and sarky is an approach used by more than one AB'er.

[Sqad]

It doesn't take guts to apologise.........it is an easy way out...a weakness.

They both assessed the facts and made their statements........nothing to apologise about.

[-Talbot-]

Is the 'clever snide and sarky' approach any worse than the 'feck off, end of' approach?

[Baldric]

Morning Bill, I find 'End of' postings just tell me the poster can't think of anything else to say!

[-Talbot-]

Morning, Ben.
I tried the 'end of' approach recently. It didn't go down well... the answer was removed. Seems some can use 'end of' some can't.

[andy-hughes]

Sqad - "It doesn't take guts to apologise.........it is an easy way out...a weakness."

You think it's an easy way out, I think it's courtesy and respect.

We shall agree to differ.

[andy-hughes]

Sqad - "They both assessed the facts and made their statements..."

Yes, but it didn't end there.

As can happen when people get carried away with the heat of battle, some unfortunate remarks can be exchanged, and they are not helpful or appropriate, and so a small redress is required.

I am perfectly happy to apologise to anyone if I have given offence, knowingly or not - it doesn't take ten years off my life to simply say sorry - it smoothes the wheels of communication, and makes people feel better - what can be wrong with that?

[TWR]

Sqad, if the Countries at War could settle their differences that way the world would be a better place to live in.

[mikey4444]

Andy...I am with you here. These political discussions can get very heated, which nobody should be that surprised about surely !

But an attempt to bury the hatchet is always welcome. TTT and I have (mostly) opposing views on political issues but we have yet to resort to nastiness. If we can do it, then everybody should else should be able to make an effort as well.

[ToraToraTora]

yes Mikey, we do have oppsing views on politics but agree on the important stuff☺

[Sqad]

TWR

\\\\\Sqad, if the Countries at War could settle their differences that way the world would be a better place to live in.\\\\

If..IF IF....but they can't and you would rather see them apologise and then do the very same thing again.

Andy-Hughes and AOG are two very different characters and if you think that an apology will "unite" them in some way then you are mistaken.
it is refreshing to have differences of personality and human characteristics,.......wouldn't life be boring if we were all the same in emotion and response.

We have had this "apology " before between andy and AOG and it hasn't made the slightest difference...........thank goodness.

Two interesting and positive characters with differing approaches to debate.........long may it last.

[Peter Pedant]

very well expressed Andie

I dont think you need to modify this post ! ( joke joke )
dginfied and to the point.

unlike this:
//You two should just kiss and get it over with.//
no tongues ! no tongues ! is what I say

[mikey4444]

TTT...you are right...we both hate smoking ! ! !

[anotheoldgit]

Good morning Andy

I thank you for your hand in friendship, and accept your apologies as I hope you will accept mine.

Although it is true that we have completely different views on many subjects, but as TWR has kindly pointed out it is the snide and sarcastic replies that annoys, which always set the pack off and then things are said which later we come to regret.

I disagree that Sqad's remark, that apologising is a an easy way out and a sign of weakness, it is not, for it takes guts to be the first one to apologise, and it moves things on to a more amiable position, if no one apologised where would we be?

I look forward to joining you once again in debate and yes at times argument even, but if it does get heated I think that we have both learned enough now so as to make sure that we both respects each other one's feelings.

Kind regards

AOG