Nicola Threatning Another Referendum If Britain Leaves Europe

[gordiescotland1]

The cheek of that woman she is threatening another referendum if UK leaves Europe
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3047585/SNP-chief-Nicola-Sturgeon-threatens-new-independence-referendum-Britain-votes-leave-EU-2017.html

I only hope the voters see sense before that woman destroys this country

[BilSuth]

The only way the SNP will hold the balance of power is if the other parties are not popular enough to get a majority. Some clowns are trying to "blame" the SNP for that situation. The SNP are popular, their policies are popular, and they will go on from strength to strength. Get used to it.

[mushroom25]

//We have higher hopes;) //

you're going to need them.
http://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/referendum-news/snp-vows-to-take-on-20bn-uk-north-sea-promise.21685620
this pledge was made before the oil industry hit the skids. it's difficult to comprehend where a small nation like an independent scotland would now find that kind of money.

[ichkeria]

Ludwig I agree. There are a lot of daft assumptions being made about a lot of things. I look forward to a time when I don't have to hear what Farage or Sturgeon think about anything for a long time though the former is probably going to happen sooner than the latter :-)

[steg]

"The SNP might win every seat in Scotland, but they can't decide to be independent. Only the people can do that"

That is correct, that is what Nicola has basically said

[Old_Geezer]

One only has to look at the coalition options to realise that if there is no overall majority then, unless one is planning to form a minority government, one either has to agree a deal with the LIBs or the SNP. Sup with the devil or the throw yourself at deep 'blue' sea ? Plus one needs to get a handful of "others" too. Whilst they all have hobby horses coalition is a pain in the neck with the tail given the chance to wag the dog on occasion.

[steg]

Mushroom, that was if Scotland voted for independence..... They did not

[SirOracle]

The SNP certainly have the Tory and the Labour parties running around like headless chickens.

We are all laughing at their outrageous behaviour,making complete fools of themselves. Panic,panic and more panic....absolutely hysterical.

[Ellipsis]

> If there was a referendum under the Tories and the vote was to come out then actually I think the Scots would have a pretty good case for a referendum on independence.

To what end though? It's the UK that's an EU member - not the individual countries in the UK - so if the UK voted to leave Europe then Scotland would be leaving, and would have to then a) vote for independence from the UK and b) re-apply to the EU to get back in to the EU, a process that could take many years.

The vote out of the EU should be held on the same basis as the 1975 vote to remain in the EEC. That was the first referendum that was held throughout the entire United Kingdom and it remained the only UK-wide referendum until the United Kingdom Alternative Vote referendum, 2011:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_European_Communities_membership_referendum,_1975

Interesting to note the results of that referendum:
England 68.7%
Wales 64.8%
Scotland 58.4%
Northern Ireland 52.1%

i.e. the English were keener than the Scots to remain in the then EEC, and Northern Ireland nearly voted not to - not that it would have made any difference had it done so, given how the rest of the UK voted and the basis on which the votes were counted. Imagine if we had not remained in the EEC because Northern Ireland voted 49.9% instead of 52.1% above ...

[Old_Geezer]

Ah but things have change Ellipsis.

Then we were voting on whether to remain in an economic community, and the Scots were less keen than most. Next time it would be a vote on retaining our EU overlords, and it is possible that the Scots are keener on a bit of domination (just so long as it isn't from south of the border ;-) ).

[Bazile]

With some posters anti - 'north of hadrians wall ' posts on here - why do they want to keep scotland as part of the union .
You would have thought they would want them to have as many referenda as it takes , untill the people say yes

[Old_Geezer]

Their preferred politicians have a lot in common with the EU then.
Little wonder then that this is the promise for the future.

[Ellipsis]

Point is that there have only been two UK-wide referendums to date, they have both taken the opinion of the UK has a whole, and one of them was even on Europe! So for the SNP to make up a different set of rules for this vote, just because they might not like the outcome of a vote made on the same basis as the 1975 and 2011 votes, is not going to wash. It's just more SNP mischief.

[anneasquith]

tory and labour only have themselves to blame that '' that woman'' appears to have them and their supporters going ga ga , :)

[maggiebee]

That comment is soooo yesterday razza.

[ichkeria]

The big issue here is not really about another referendum
The chances are that the SNP will hold the balance of power after the next election and much as I detest them that will be through the democratic will of Scottish people. This is something that is likely to be a huge issue not just for Labour but equally for the Tories - arguably more so. It is crass for the Tory Party to keep banging on about Labour and the SNP. Their best hope is actually that their are more Scottish Labour MPs (and Lib Dems) because I don't see how they can govern otherwise in a hung parliament

[dylanfanatic]

Are they still searching for 'Nessie?' Somebody wants to throw that silly *** in and shout "here it is, we've found the Loch Ness Monster!"

[Ellipsis]

> The big issue here is not really about another referendum

As far as the OP is concerned, another referendum is exactly the issue.

> The chances are that the SNP will hold the balance of power after the next election

Neither Labour nor the Tories want to deal with the SNP. There are more than enough seats that the SNP won't win to form a majority that does not include them. Worst case we'll get a minority government, which could actually be quite interesting ...

[ToraToraTora]

how come others can use the rhymming slang for scotts without hysterical howls from the same?

[anneasquith]

that would be ......... Scots !!!!!

[anneasquith]

that would be ................ rhyming !!!!