Will There Now Be A Crack-Down On All Those Listening To 'their' Music On Their Smart Phones?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/it-is-illegal-to-rip-music-off-a-cd-or-put-dvds-onto-hard-drives-uk-high-court-says-10402163.html

Strange choice of photograph don't you think?

[wolf63]

I don't think that the photograph was taken locally.

[Gromit]

// On 1 October 2014, new copyright regulations adding exceptions for personal copying, parody, and quotation came into force in the UK.

The personal copying exception allows copying of purchased media for private use. This includes format shifting and backups. The exception doesn’t cover making copies for friends, family or making copies of media you do not own or have acquired without the copyright holder’s permission. You can store personal copies on any device you own but you can’t legally give other people access to copies you make. The legislation allows individuals to apply to the Secretary of State if they want to remove the Digital Rights Management (DRM) access control, but this kind of provision – which already existed in UK law – has never been properly tested. //

The changes to the copyright law have already been passed, so I don't see how the Courts can change the law and not Parliament.

[douglas9401]

Jeez, so this is what folk with massive brains sit about thinking up of a day.

What a lot of pants.

[retrocop]

wolf63
It was. I recognise Soho Chinatown :-)
A very good photograph considering all the knock off pirate DVD's are pedalled around pubs and industrial estates around my way by Koreans or Thai's. Not seen any monks doing it yet.

[Gromit]

Not sure what happens next.
A judge has said the Government was wrong to bring in the exceptions.

This makes the UK the only country in the world that you cannot put a CD you have purchased into a digital format. Is it any wonder the money grabbing record industry is so loathed?

[Gromit]

Retro,
Copyright infringment by illegally manufacturing identical products is a totally different piece of law not covered by this ruling. This is about format shifting.

[ukbod2015]

I didn't think anybody still recalled DVDs anymore with so many Films, TV and Musics sites online to stream from.

[youngmafbog]

I find it a very strange ruling.

In addition the attitude of the music industry thinking the public should pay all over again for something they own just simply in another format is ridiculous.

I think some people need to move with the times, starting with this Judge.

[ToraToraTora]

Yes Gromit has a point, the law is clear so not sure how a judge can overrule Parliament.

[Gromit]

Ymb,

They want compensating. Presumably they want a levy put on CDs. So they will be more expensive, so they will sell less and make less money. Record company idiots.

[ToraToraTora]

I can remember back to the eighties, I used to record singles onto a cassette. Even back then It was, I thought, legal if you bought the singles in the first place.

[anotheoldgit]

I wonder if it will now be unlawful for Amazon to put a copy of a CD one has bought onto their cloud?

[Gromit]

I have about 20,000 songs.

I have paid a levy to Match them in the Cloud and therefore legitimise them. So the record companies are getting money from me when I access my CD ripped tracks.

I do not like that, but I like the service of being able to access all my records anywhere on any device.

I would like it better if I were not paying the record companies twice.

[-Talbot-]

It is illegal to rip music off a CD or put DVDs onto hard drives, UK High Court says



Because I prefer to buy CD's rather than download, I have to carry thousands of CD's about with me do I...?

[Gromit]

// I wonder if it will now be unlawful for Amazon to put a copy of a CD one has bought onto their cloud? //

It is legal because YOU are not format shifting the tracks yourself. Amazon must have permissions to do that.

[-Talbot-]

Maybe this judge is 173 year old and meant 'Burn' a CD wich would make more sense.

[Gromit]

It is clearly unenforceable, so the law will have to ve clarified. They want a levy like the rest of the EU impose. Not sure how that can be collected other than on the sale of a CD. See above why that will fail.

[Gromit]

Burn, rip, format shift - all the same thing. It makes no sense at all.

[-Talbot-]

It's not the same thing. I rip the music I buy to my laptop to put on my phone, ipod which imo I should be allowed to do to make it easy for me to listen to whilst on the move. If it was only illegal to rip a CD which can be passed onto family or friends then I could have some sympathies.

[anotheoldgit]

Gromit

/// It is legal because YOU are not format shifting the tracks yourself. Amazon must have permissions to do that. ///

Yes but what if I rip them from the cloud onto my hard drive etc?