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Is This Man Fit To Be A Labour Party Leader
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Aleggedly he was involved in the Great Cover Up of Islingtons child sex abuse scandal.
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wouldn't surprise me - after all, the present interim leader, ms harperson, was an apologist for tom o' carroll and his odious organisation
09:30 Sat 01st Aug 2015
Thanks Ladybird. Whatever Mikeys politics he is usually up in arms about any cover up when it comes to Child abuse. It seems not when it comes to left wingers.
Gromit. Here's your link. It's some time ago when you said that Thatcher closed all the mines.
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At last ! Thanks Ladybirder...I would never have understood that without your help.
And no, I don't think this will effect Corbyns chance of becoming Leader, as has been pointed out on here, lots of people were aware of various wrongdoings concerning paedophiles.
David Steele proposed Cyril Smith for his Knighthood, despite knowing, as lots of other people did, that Smith had paedophile tendencies.
Leon Brittan's habits were well known about by Thatcher, and everyone else in the Tory Party, but she did nothing about it.
Savile was apparently suspected by almost everybody he had ever met of being a sexual pervert, but again, nobody did anything.
"Perchance he for whom this bell tolls may be so ill, as that he knows not it tolls for him; and perchance I may think myself so much better than I am, as that they who are about me, and see my state, may have caused it to toll for me, and I know not that"....John Donne.
And no, I don't think this will effect Corbyns chance of becoming Leader, as has been pointed out on here, lots of people were aware of various wrongdoings concerning paedophiles.
David Steele proposed Cyril Smith for his Knighthood, despite knowing, as lots of other people did, that Smith had paedophile tendencies.
Leon Brittan's habits were well known about by Thatcher, and everyone else in the Tory Party, but she did nothing about it.
Savile was apparently suspected by almost everybody he had ever met of being a sexual pervert, but again, nobody did anything.
"Perchance he for whom this bell tolls may be so ill, as that he knows not it tolls for him; and perchance I may think myself so much better than I am, as that they who are about me, and see my state, may have caused it to toll for me, and I know not that"....John Donne.
So were all these whistleblowers waiting until Corbyn was high profile enough to warrant going public with their disclosures ?
Is Corbyn fit to be an MP if the whistleblowers blow truth?
Talbot you ask too many pertinent, distracting, inconvenient questions; if disingenuity was a crime the House of Commons and Lords could be empty.
Sad how narrow some frame the debate.
Is Corbyn fit to be an MP if the whistleblowers blow truth?
Talbot you ask too many pertinent, distracting, inconvenient questions; if disingenuity was a crime the House of Commons and Lords could be empty.
Sad how narrow some frame the debate.
Thanks Svejk. I don't take it personally, I'm used to Mikey not answering awkward questions or deflecting them onto another person on the right of,politics. I apologise by the way Mikey for the gobbledygook in one of my sentences. My iPad plays tricks with the predictive text and I don't always notice when I get fired up about a subject as I did with the Corbyn connection with Islington sex abuse. He was told time and time again, even by a child victim who is now a lawyer who campaigns on behalf of victims of sex abuse. The one constant is that after reporting the goings on by lots of different people, never once called them back or wrote to them saying what steps he has taken. The report Gomit put s link to was redacted so much most of it was missing. If that isn't a cover up I don't know what is.
If Corbyn is guilty of anything, it needs to be tested in court, not in the right wing press.
If, by doing nothing at the time, which I don't believe is actually a criminal offence, then that speaks to his character, or rather, it's a sad reflection on attitudes to child protection in the last century.
Now...lindapalmara - the question that needs to be addressed is this:
Did Corbyn actively take part in a cover up, by destroying documentation, perverting the course of justice, lying or bribing?
Or did he simply not take steps to investigate the claims?
If the answer to the first question is 'yes', then he was part of the conspiracy.
If the answer to the second question is 'yes', then he was not involved in the cover-up. He may not have even known there was a cover-up going on.
This is why it's difficult to judge these stories, because at the moment, we only have the word of two right wing newspapers - and they will have their own agenda...as we all do.
If, by doing nothing at the time, which I don't believe is actually a criminal offence, then that speaks to his character, or rather, it's a sad reflection on attitudes to child protection in the last century.
Now...lindapalmara - the question that needs to be addressed is this:
Did Corbyn actively take part in a cover up, by destroying documentation, perverting the course of justice, lying or bribing?
Or did he simply not take steps to investigate the claims?
If the answer to the first question is 'yes', then he was part of the conspiracy.
If the answer to the second question is 'yes', then he was not involved in the cover-up. He may not have even known there was a cover-up going on.
This is why it's difficult to judge these stories, because at the moment, we only have the word of two right wing newspapers - and they will have their own agenda...as we all do.
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//If the answer to the second question is 'yes', then he was not involved in the cover-up. He may not have even known there was a cover-up going on.//
He did nothing. If I reported something so wrong in Society to my MP and He/she didn't act on it I would be horrified and probably go straight to the police (Corbyn had spoken to a young boy who was abused and did nothing). I don't know where you are coming from but this is not acceptable in any society. Stop throwing right and left wing agenda into it. Anyone from any political persuasion is as guilty.
By the way I think the first question is more than likely!!
//If the answer to the second question is 'yes', then he was not involved in the cover-up. He may not have even known there was a cover-up going on.//
He did nothing. If I reported something so wrong in Society to my MP and He/she didn't act on it I would be horrified and probably go straight to the police (Corbyn had spoken to a young boy who was abused and did nothing). I don't know where you are coming from but this is not acceptable in any society. Stop throwing right and left wing agenda into it. Anyone from any political persuasion is as guilty.
By the way I think the first question is more than likely!!
