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Should There Now Be A Return To Extensive Stop And Searches, Plus Longer Sentences For Carrying Knives?
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AOG
That's pretty amazing!
I lived on the Aylesbury Estate for 20 months before I bought my first flat.
I had a council flat on the Missenden block of the estate (right in the middle of the estate).
Therefore I can speak with a degree of first hand knowledge - I didn't ever see any trouble there in all the time I lived there.
I even used to take the short cut through the ground floor car park late at night when returning from a night out at work.
The Heygate estate was considerably worse than the Aylesbury.
The flats themselves were actually really nice - the worst thing I can say about the place I had was pigeons used to roost on the balcony, meaning I had to spend every Saturday cleaning up poop.
That's pretty amazing!
I lived on the Aylesbury Estate for 20 months before I bought my first flat.
I had a council flat on the Missenden block of the estate (right in the middle of the estate).
Therefore I can speak with a degree of first hand knowledge - I didn't ever see any trouble there in all the time I lived there.
I even used to take the short cut through the ground floor car park late at night when returning from a night out at work.
The Heygate estate was considerably worse than the Aylesbury.
The flats themselves were actually really nice - the worst thing I can say about the place I had was pigeons used to roost on the balcony, meaning I had to spend every Saturday cleaning up poop.
AOG
You wrote:
was particularly about a prominent black area, there was no racist intent, as both you and the usual suspect cares to make it one.
When you hear the clattering of hooves behind you, it's fair to assume it's a horse.
Once in a blue moon, it might be a zebra, but generally if it sounds like a horse, it will be a horse...
You wrote:
was particularly about a prominent black area, there was no racist intent, as both you and the usual suspect cares to make it one.
When you hear the clattering of hooves behind you, it's fair to assume it's a horse.
Once in a blue moon, it might be a zebra, but generally if it sounds like a horse, it will be a horse...
Another one : The family also called for more stop and searches and tougher sentences for carrying knives to deter young people.
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TWR - "Don't shout at your children, don't correct your children, don't smack your children, otherwise you will get done! who's caused all this?"
There is no one isolated factor that has caused the downward spiral in child rearing.
Some factors that re brought to bear are things like the increasing isolation of your parents, with no role models to guide them.
Generations ago, young couples would have had parents, grandparents, brothers and sisters, all with children, all living in the same street, or maybe one or two streets away, making social contact frequent. Guiding by example, and talking about raising children, young parents got a good grounding in parenthood, and children had plenty of role models outside their immediate family. Modern society isolates people from such influences.
As each family grows, the law of diminishing returns kicks in - bad parenting leads to children growing up with no notion of fitting into society, of kindness and respect, and so the spiral goes down.
Children look for the comfort of bonding and security they don't get at home, and find it in gangs, with their own hierarchies and acceptance cultures - such as carrying a knife, and being prepared to use it.
There is no one isolated factor that has caused the downward spiral in child rearing.
Some factors that re brought to bear are things like the increasing isolation of your parents, with no role models to guide them.
Generations ago, young couples would have had parents, grandparents, brothers and sisters, all with children, all living in the same street, or maybe one or two streets away, making social contact frequent. Guiding by example, and talking about raising children, young parents got a good grounding in parenthood, and children had plenty of role models outside their immediate family. Modern society isolates people from such influences.
As each family grows, the law of diminishing returns kicks in - bad parenting leads to children growing up with no notion of fitting into society, of kindness and respect, and so the spiral goes down.
Children look for the comfort of bonding and security they don't get at home, and find it in gangs, with their own hierarchies and acceptance cultures - such as carrying a knife, and being prepared to use it.
Very possibly an element of it Mr AOG. Disgusting creature gets 21 yrs min, should be hanged but for obvious reasons he can't.
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