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No More Bobbies On The Beat, Under The Party Of Law And Order ?

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mikey4444 | 08:12 Wed 28th Oct 2015 | News
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34651119

"The comments have been made by the chairwoman of the National Police Chiefs' Council (NPCC), Sara Thornton, and Craig Mackey, the deputy commissioner of the Met Police"

After over 5 years of dave in Number Ten and Osborne in Number 11, it seems that 25% to 40% of cuts in the imminent spending review.

We know that people like to see Police on the beat, so will we all be happy when the Police have these drastic cuts applied to their budgets ?
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Retro ...were you once a Police Officer or a Politician?


I think your answer means 'no'

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OG // It means pubic behaviour deteriorates...///


quite right OG I regard deteriorating pubic behaviour both at home and er at large as one of the policing challenges of the 2010s !!
The tech I use is proven to add typos time and again. It really gets me down.

Ho hum, at least it made sense !
Talbot
I am beginning to believe the public are getting the police service they want and deserve!!
Yes when your car gets nicked all you want is a crime number ... just as well really because that's all you get.
-Talbot-

/// Yes when your car gets nicked all you want is a crime number ... just as well really because that's all you get. ///

Perhaps that is because they have to be so careful who they pick on for car stealing?
It's amazing that when one complains about the amount of stabbings and crime in general, the apologists are quick to point out that crime figures have actually dropped.

Well if this is so, then don't it make sense to cut police numbers?
AOG
Straight question.
Do you agree with with stopping police beat patrols?
There was a public order incident discussed recently on this site Someone said,"Do you remember the Student riots in Paris in the 60's. Ha. The CRS could show how it is done to stop it."
I remember when we had the equivalent. It was called the SPG. A highly mobile group of officers always with riot gear on board their vehicles who had a remit to go anywhere in the Metropolis when trouble flared up.
They were also used to blitz areas where there may be a high incidence of street crime. Dipping or Mugging and car theft etc. They would operate in uniform and plain clothes and succeed in bringing down those crime statistics.
They were used at a demo in West London when a left wing agitator died. It was believed that it was a police truncheon blow to the head and maybe a SPG officer wielded it.
Result: Howls of protest and the SPG were abolished. A very cheap and efficient group disbanded at a cost to the law abiding citizens.
Talbot. Your car would be safe if they were in your area.
Likewise. We have people complaining that the police are doing nothing about the rise in Knife crime and too many young boys (in gangs) are dying.
The SPG would of blitzed those areas and eliminated the possession of knives in quick time.
Again the vociferous left will bleat that a certain group are picked on by use of stop and search. Those powers are severely curtailed.
That is why I said earlier. The public is getting what they asked for. An ineffective service which treads on eggshells and has there authority and effectiveness eroded.
You reap what you sow.
But we have a Conservative government ... how are they addressing your dissatisfaction, retro?
Retro
// • The criminal investigation into Peach's death was hampered by SPG officers, who Cass concluded had lied to him to cover up the actions of their colleagues. He "strongly recommended" that three officers should be charged with conspiracy to pervert the course of justice, giving detailed evidence to show how they were engaged in a "deliberate attempt to conceal the presence of the carrier at the scene at that time". None were ever charged. //

The SPG were out of control. Not sure why you have introduced them in a debate about Bobbies on the Beat.
My village never has had a police "beat". The only police cars we ever see are those rushing through at 60 mph with the screamers on so they can get back to HQ before their tea gets cold.
The same special patrol group that were found to be armed with baseball bats, sledgehammers and crowbars Retro?

Left wing agitator died/murdered.
Talbot
My dissatisfaction stems further back than this government.It goes back to when the police became politicalised puppets of the left.
Why it was no longer correct to call it a police force. Must say Service. Well thats an Oxymoron for a start.
If a left wing government listens to the concerns of wrongdoers and changes operational procedure to placate those who prefer a bit of looting and anarchy to get on with unhindered then we no longer get a sevice we deserve and used to have.
Randy Marsh.
Those are the same SPG but were these items found on them at the scene of this disorder or were they found in locker searches subsequently?
Tell me what you know personally or do you just skim through Wikepedia?
All i know about special patrol group was learned from the Young ones, this thread and Wikipedia but that does not alter the fact that they had the weapons.

I miss the beat policeman. Had one when I first moved into this house some years back and he was lovely, everyone knew him and he was very helpful. Sad day when he left and was never replaced.
Once again retropolitician pops up.

Is your answer to my question 'nothing'

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Randy Marsh
Well perhaps before you use emotive words like murder which was never established perhaps you could tell me if those weapons were used at Southall and if not where were they found and why they were in the possession of the SPG?
Talbot.
Cuts can be made to the police force and it can work efficiently without interference from governments who pander to the whims of the left.
Does that answer your question. Cut back on wasteage and make the police an efficient organisation it once was.

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