Nice Little Earner !

[tonyav]

I wonder if IDS pay's himself a bonus.

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/dwp-staff-received-almost-%C2%A3140-million-in-bonuses-over-the-last-three-years/ar-CC4opo?li=AAaeUIW

[naomi24]

//I presume IDS does the performance management review //

I don't think so. Just imagine the inconsistency in the workplace a system like that would engender.

//So, ask yourself what these bonuses were awarded in aid of?//

No idea. In my opinion Civil Servants shouldn't receive bonuses.

[jim360]

Naomi -- I was replying to tony rather than you. Sorry for the confusion.

[naomi24]

OK, thanks for the clarification.

[jim360]

Why should they not? Civil Servants work, they have been known to work fairly hard, and some of their work is even reasonably good-quality. A performance-related bonus isn't totally outrageous in those circumstances. It's not like a bankers' bonus of some stupid figure like 100% of salary. Closer to about 5% for most before tax.

[naomi24]

Bonuses paid to people in the financial industries are paid for by the income those people have generated. Civil Servants don’t generate income, and therefore any bonuses paid to them are a drain on the public purse.

[jim360]

Any more so than their salaries are?

[naomi24]

Of course. We need Civil Servants and we must pay them for doing the job they're employed to do, but they don't generate income and therefore any extra paid to them must be met by the taxpayer.

[jim360]

Civil Servants pay tax too.

Apparently there's the requirement for another 48% cuts to administrative costs, including yet more job cuts, yet more reapplying for your own job, and yet more stress. Right now I wouldn't want to be a Civil Servant. A bonus of a few hundred pounds a year wouldn't make up for all the stress and other assorted crap they have to put up with right now.

[naomi24]

//Civil Servants pay tax too. //

Of course they do - but that doesn't give them any more right than anyone working in the private sector has to claw some of it back.

[naomi24]

Bouncer, computer systems aren't what this thread is about - but if you want to talk about that post a new thread and I'll be more than happy to contribute to it. I'm not picking fault with other posters - unhappily for you I'm telling it like it is to those who have the wrong end of the stick. One good thing, at least. You're ignorant on this particular subject no more.

[jim360]

You really aren't telling it like it is, Naomi. I'm sorry but you just aren't.

Anyway, thank goodness you aren't in charge of Civil Service pay any more than IDS is.

[naomi24]

//You really aren't telling it like it is, Naomi. I'm sorry but you just aren't. //

Odd. You've agreed with me that individual ministers aren't responsible for paying salaries or bonuses.

[ladybirder]

Which bit do you think Naomi is getting wrong Jim?

[THECORBYLOON]

NAOMI if staff surpass benchmarks such as number of claims cleared or decisions given in day on a regular basis, should that not be recognised by a bonus?

[naomi24]

No.

[-Talbot-]

Jim you seem to be in the know, please explain how this bonus money is generated.


"The DWP has insisted that bonuses are only paid to employees whose work is consistently good or outstanding"

I bet there are loads of people who wish 'consistently good or outstanding' work led to a big bonus.

[-Talbot-]

THECORBYLOON
NAOMI if staff surpass benchmarks such as number of claims suspended.



From what I hear that would be nearer the mark.

[THECORBYLOON]

NAOMI, why should a bonus not be given?

[-Talbot-]

Sorry meant to remove your name CORBY