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them 30 odd years to suss him out...pretty good going...
them 30 odd years to suss him out...pretty good going...
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If I take your inference correctly bazwillrun, you are saying that Sutcliffe deceived the psychiatrists into diagnosing his mental illness, and now they have seen through his deception.
In fact, diagnosing severe mental illness is extremely difficult, and I would suggest it is beyond anyone to fake it in a manner that would be believed by the medical personal who have diagnosed and treated Broadmooor patients.
That said, it is possible that Sutcliff's condition has responded to treatment to a level where it is determined that Broadmoor is no longer the suitable environment that it has been previously.
So, I would suggest that your point is simplistic - and probably incorrect.
In fact, diagnosing severe mental illness is extremely difficult, and I would suggest it is beyond anyone to fake it in a manner that would be believed by the medical personal who have diagnosed and treated Broadmooor patients.
That said, it is possible that Sutcliff's condition has responded to treatment to a level where it is determined that Broadmoor is no longer the suitable environment that it has been previously.
So, I would suggest that your point is simplistic - and probably incorrect.
Listening to expert on the luchtime news, they have now got his schizophrenia under control with drugs, so no longer needs specialist care.
As seen it reported he is angry about leaving his comfortable life for prison, I would guess that once in prison he will start to refuse the medication in order for a return to Broadmoor.
As seen it reported he is angry about leaving his comfortable life for prison, I would guess that once in prison he will start to refuse the medication in order for a return to Broadmoor.
Zacs - //I don't really think there was any deceiving to be done was there? Unless you consider it anywhere within 'normal' behaviour to kill 13 women. //
Of course murder is not a rational act, but it does not require psychological issues to carry it out - so Sutcliffe could have been perfectly sane at the time of his trial, or judged to be suffering from a mental illness, as was subsequently diagnosed, and now be no longer suffering from that condition - which is not by any stretch to say that his behaviour was, or indeed now would be 'normal' by any reasonable definition of the word.
Of course murder is not a rational act, but it does not require psychological issues to carry it out - so Sutcliffe could have been perfectly sane at the time of his trial, or judged to be suffering from a mental illness, as was subsequently diagnosed, and now be no longer suffering from that condition - which is not by any stretch to say that his behaviour was, or indeed now would be 'normal' by any reasonable definition of the word.
bazwillrun - //ok lets wait and see how long until his "illness" returns shall we...
gullible mugs to the end... //
If you are going to insult some of the most emiment medical brains in the country, who probably have most of the alphabet after their names, you really need to confirm the basis for your lofty supposition.
If you are simply spouting hot air because it's a simplistic conclusion to reach, then that's all well and good, but in the interest of fair debate, you should advise the origins of your views.
gullible mugs to the end... //
If you are going to insult some of the most emiment medical brains in the country, who probably have most of the alphabet after their names, you really need to confirm the basis for your lofty supposition.
If you are simply spouting hot air because it's a simplistic conclusion to reach, then that's all well and good, but in the interest of fair debate, you should advise the origins of your views.
Zacs - // 'it does not require psychological issues to carry it out'
Not even to carry it out 13 times? //
Not one time, or one hundred times.
The prisons and prison graveyards of the world are full of people who have murdered people knowing full well what they have done, and without a second of remorse for doing it.
It's not rational, but it does not require mental aberration either.
Not even to carry it out 13 times? //
Not one time, or one hundred times.
The prisons and prison graveyards of the world are full of people who have murdered people knowing full well what they have done, and without a second of remorse for doing it.
It's not rational, but it does not require mental aberration either.
At the time of his trial his defence team sought to prove that he was 'insane' but this was dismissed and he was tried as a sane albeit very bad man.....and spent the early part of his sentence in HMP system.
A deterioration in his mental state subsequently found him being transferred to a secure mental hospital.
Now that his mental state has been successfully (?) treated, he's being transferred back into the prison system.
I'm not sure quite what point baz is trying to make....
A deterioration in his mental state subsequently found him being transferred to a secure mental hospital.
Now that his mental state has been successfully (?) treated, he's being transferred back into the prison system.
I'm not sure quite what point baz is trying to make....
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