The Tip Of The Iceberg?

[Svejk]

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/dec/03/worker-stole-nearly-500000-of-council-funds-to-pay-for-lavish-wedding

[Svejk]

What kind of systems do councils have in place when some-one
can be in this position within a few months.

[EDDIE51]

She stole nearly £500,000, does not have to pay it back, and will be out of jail in under 2 years! yet they say '' crime does not pay?''

[fiction-factory]

I hope some managers/auditors have also been punished.
I hope I'm wrong but I'm wondering whether there is a culture of not wanting to be seen to be doing close audits on staff in some areas because of fears of claims of victimisation/discrimination.

[jno]

are you seriously suggesting the country is full of council workers stealing hundreds of thousands from their offices?

[bazwillrun]

shame we cant kick every last one of them out and back to where they came from..

[fiction-factory]

No jno- the vast majority of council staff are very hard working and honest and most councils have robust auditing/management control systems in place but clearly the systems in Haringey were not adequate

[Svejk]

Didn't suggest anything, jno.

[Jackdaw33]

Best not mention that all the names seem to be Moslem ones

[fiction-factory]

I thought her name sounded East European or Turkish . The husband's name Jihad gives a clue though. I suppose most of her friends and family would be from the same heritage- maybe a white English born person thief would have shared the proceeds with people of a similar white English back ground.

[jno]

what's "the tip of the iceberg" mean, then?

Sorry, f-f, my previous post and this one are intended for Svejk.

[Svejk]

EDDIE51 ///She stole nearly £500,000, does not have to pay it back, and will be out of jail in under 2 years! yet they say '' crime does not pay?''///

We can't get the money back, Eddie, because she spent it all. And yet part of the loot was used to pay off their mortgage.
I see a cunning plan to get our money back. After all, they won't need a house in this country when they get out, will they?

[Svejk]

It's what we call a question, jno, not a statement. If I had more time I'd explain it to you.

[EDDIE51]

Sevjk see my reply to Ummmm on this related question.

[Svejk]

And don't try to get others on ' your side'. It's pathetic.

[EDDIE51]

Forgot the link
http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/Law/Question1460384.html#answer-10098759

[youngmafbog]

There are bad eggs everywhere.

The fact that such a large sum was misappropriated would imply that the system, at least in that council, are broken.

[anotheoldgit]

Little wonder why some employers are reluctant to employ anyone with a foreign sounding name.

That is not including councils of course, where having a foreign sounding name is almost obligatory.

[fiction-factory]

I'm not sure about that, AOG. Have you been to Haringey?
I think the council staff in Haringey, similar boroughs and in fact most councils around the UK broadly reflect the diversity of the population in those areas.

[anotheoldgit]

The house should be sold off, so as to recuperate the money, the council tax payers of Haringey council, should demand it.

[anotheoldgit]

fiction-factor

That is what I was referring to in my 2nd paragraph.