If St Mandella Had Said This...

[ToraToraTora]

How different would the response from our elite thinkers be?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08ZPbUBmb30

[ummmm]

Talbot - Yes, I know, but I can't think of a solution. The 'send them back' stance doesn't appear to be a viable option.

Even we, who lean slightly to the left, knew something bad was going to happen.

[ToraToraTora]

Ich: "What has Nelson Mandela got to do with it" - Can you not see? Nothing! nothing at all, but if he'd said it, the liberal elite that tell us the "right" answer on any given subject would be preaching it! that's my point, they look at only the messenger, For christ sake on the other thread someone actually said they saw some emblem and didn't even listen to it because of that!

[retrocop]

A Stone Island clothing insignia fgs. It wasn't SS runes!!! Pathetic excuse.

[Zacs-Master]

I also knew who was wearing it. Your continued efforts to try and divorce the man from what he said is tiresome.

[Peter Pedant]

3T if St Mandela has said this

would be have ? talked about German women having their knickers ripped off ? OK so what if he had said alot but had changed some of the words ....

and of course it would depend on which words were changed....

and of course he wouldnt have said it - RSA is the murder capital of the world and the current president Zuma was acuqitted of a charge of rape so I think st mandela would have kept quiet

[cassa333]

The trouble with far right saying the truth is that no one wants to truly listen. They are blinkered by the politics.

Which is a shame because it stifles open debate because no one wants to agree and be seen as far right. When they aren't. Catch 22 or more to the point The emperors new cloths. No one wants to admit the emperor has no cloths on so the little boy is ignored and vilified for telling the truth.

All that aside.

I didn't know who he was or what his politics were until this thread however I agree with his sentiments. Only the Politicly blind couldn't see this coming.

Why do we so so many more young single men on these boats and rafts clamouring for asylum than families? Are they so much more important to flee than women and children, Mothers, sisters, aunts? Do they want to flee the horrors of war but abandon their families to be killed, raped, subjugated and forced to live unspeakable lives?

[ToraToraTora]

"Only the Politicly blind couldn't see this coming. " - well that's most of the EU politicians and most of the members on here cassa!

agreeing with someone who you generally do not align with does not mean you take on their beliefs, you are only acknowledging that you agree with something they say. I agreed with some of the stuff Jeremy Corbyn says, doesn't mean I'm going to join the Socialist Worker party does it?

[Peter Pedant]

// Ich: "What has Nelson Mandela got to do with it" - Can you not see? Nothing! nothing at all, //

so 3T you introduced a non-sequitur in order to see if we spotted your non-sequitur

- well 3T comes out with so many that it wasnt more obvious than some of the others ....

and the point is ? 3T writes non-sequiturs - often in rhyming slang.
But we knew that anyway .....

or as 3T might say - "what have the sweaties got to do with the lids these days ?" [Sorry I am still banging on ( pun intended ) about saucepan lids]

[ToraToraTora]

Mandela was just handy, I know the "correct" thinkers worship him but really it could have been winnie the pooh, the point is that the messenger is irrelevant.

[ichkeria]

Tora I couldn't really imagine Nelson Mandela saying what Mr Robinson said (especially the 'see you for the match on 6 February' bit!) Poor old police that day, yet again.
There is a serious debate to be had here but shoving Tommy Robinson down our throats is not really helping.

[Gavmacp]

When we talk about terrorists or freedom fighters I often think about how many American wanted to shake Gerry Adams hand. You say say potatoes I say potatoes etc!

[-Talbot-]

There is a serious debate to be had here


Careful, ich ... you're on dangerous ground making a statement like that!

[Peter Pedant]

// Tora I couldn't really imagine Nelson Mandela saying what Mr Robinson said (especially the 'see you for the match on 6 February' bit!) //

No I got stuck on St Mandy talking about tipping off German women's knickers
Altho we knew he was human surely not THAT human

[naomi24]

//Altho we knew he was human surely not THAT human //

Attacking women and ripping their knickers off isn't human! Sort your brain out! Disgusting!

[anotheoldgit]

Zacs-Master

/// That's you're view. To me it's called 'associating yourself with the far right'. ///

If it is only the 'Far Right' who are prepared to condemn those who commit such sexual crimes against our womenfolk, then call me 'Far Right'.

Just like racist, fascist. islamophobic, xenophobic, or whatever else the left care to call anyone who is prepared to condemn such actions, they are just words.

[Zacs-Master]

Fair enough but don't complain when i do!