If St Mandella Had Said This...

[ToraToraTora]

How different would the response from our elite thinkers be?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08ZPbUBmb30

[mikey4444]

TTT....far be it for me to stifle debate but this issue was discussed at length yesterday

http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/Society-and-Culture/Question1467387.html

[naomi24]

It's a good question, Mikey. I think he has a point. Opinions are often formed not upon what's said, but upon who said it. I'm sure you of all people will understand that.

[mikey4444]

I do understand it Naomi, but a very full debate was had on this and I'm not sure that I have anything new to say. But if people want to comment, than lead on !

[naomi24]

No surprise there.

[Zacs-Master]

Why Mandella? That's a minefield of a person to choose. But you knew that didn't you?

your constant efforts to label people as 'lefties' leaves you blind to the subtler aspects of a 'debate'. Robinson is Fascist scum, therefore I don't want to associate myself with him or anyone of his ilk no matter how much truth he speaks. Mandella didn't say it, Robinson (or whatever he's calling himself this week) did.

Nice of you to label me as an elite thinker tho. Ta.

[ToraToraTora]

No mikey this is a new question, in that thread, many seemed to base their comments on the messenger rather than the message. I am asking those that did to imagine one of their heroes had said it and reappraise the message. Lengthy though it was that thread barely covered the message, many seemed incapable of addressing the content because of the messenger, I am hoping that those people will now debate the actual content.

[Zacs-Master]

I'm not one of those Tora. I hope that's clear?

[ichkeria]

I thought Robinson had left the organisation he founded because he was allegedly staggered at the monster he had created :-)
So if he is not a raving fascist he is certainly a naive one

What was the response from the elite thinkers btw? Bit hard to answer the question until we know that.
And also who is Steven Mandella :-)

[ToraToraTora]

JTH: I chose Mandella because he is universally revered. I have not mentioned "lefties" here.

[Zacs-Master]

There is no debate regarding the content. I hope that's clear?

[ToraToraTora]

"What was the response from the elite thinkers btw?" - very little on the subject matter, they just hung drew and quartered the messager.

[naomi24]

Zacs-Master, no matter where it comes from, truth is truth - and he's speaking the truth. There are none more far right or scummier than radical Islam.

[ichkeria]

Can you give examples of the hanging etc?
Ok I'll put you out of your misery: there's only one L in 'Mandela'
There's no F in 'comparison' either :-)

[Zacs-Master]

'they just hung drew and quartered the messager.' Erm.....no we didn't we just alerted those ignorant of his background to what he actually is.

Naomi. I don't know how many more ways I can say that 'what he said is the truth but I don't want to associate myself with him because of his far right political views'.

[ToraToraTora]

Ok Zacs, you agree with the messenger, so do I, didn't hurt did it?

[naomi24]

Zacs-Master, I don't understand that at all. In pursuit of the truth it's sometimes necessary to step beyond your preferred version of politics. Anything else is disingenuous. I'd say Jeremy Corbyn was right - if I ever thought he was of course.

[tamaris]

Naomi 24..........
'truth is truth - and he's speaking the truth. There are none more far right or scummier than radical Islam'.

I agree with you on that.

[viv41]

I far prefer Robinson to the scummy radical islam !

[ToraToraTora]

"Can you give examples of the hanging etc? " - read the thread, you may even find some more typos.

[Zacs-Master]

I said I agreed with him on the other thread, so I'm not sure why you felt it necessary for me to repeat myself Tora.