In or Out?

[AB Editor]

 

This poll is closed.

Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?

• Leave the European Union - 124 votes
• 75%
• Remain a member of the European Union - 42 votes
• 25%

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Stats until: 12:15 Thu 21st Nov 2024 (Refreshed every 5 minutes)

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[Svejk]

Trouble is, Hopkirk, anyone following the News Section on AB would tend to be interested and informed about politics, etc.
Before the Oldham by-election, they interviewed people who had never heard of Jeremy Corbyn and yet were voting Labour.

[naomi24]

Jourdain, //Please remember that we voted only for an economic union and no way did anyone agree to an United States of Europe, which is, inexorably, happening. //

As I understand it, it was a trade agreement - nothing more.

[Jackdaw33]

That's what we were led to believe, Naomi, but others, like Barbara Castle Tony Benn and Enoch Powell knew differently. It was down in black and white in s.2 of the EEC Act, 1972, which makes it clear that European law overrides UK law.

[starone]

Well, that looks definite then. Let's hope we get the same result in the proper poll.

[naomi24]

Jackdaw, really? Thank you. I didn't know that. We've been even more stupid than I thought then.

[AB Editor]

Sorry to join the party late, but: do you think it was worth Cameron going to the EU with his reforms?

I was originally hoping he'd give EU reform a go, but instead he seems to have come out with a set of reforms to the EU/UK relationship. This is fine, but not really the kind of reassurance that anyone wanted.

Unless it was? Is anyone satisfied by it?

[Baldric]

Not good enough, not what was required at all imo.

[pusskin]

Out.

[jourdain2]

I'm not satisfied by his demands. If he'd gone for, and got, what he'd originally bribed us with, I might have considered staying in - believe it or not.
Now we are threatened with the new idea of some sort of communal responsibility (read about it yesterday) under which British businesses could have their gas supplies cut off if homes in other parts of the EU are short of heating. If that applies to gas, it can be made to apply to anything. A terrible threat, slipping in unnoticed.

[jourdain2]

Just found it, a proposed law establishing a 'solidarity principle'.
EU energy commissioner said: "In practice this means member states will have to give priority to protected consumers in neighbouring countries over non-protected consumers at home."

I can see his point, but IMO the implications are horrific.

[Caran]

Out.

[tonyav]

Dave has negotiated a new deal !
http://www.expressandstar.com/news/politics/2016/02/19/deal-on-uks-relationship-with-eu-finally-struck/

It's still an out from me though.

[1rovert]

OUT - OUT - OUT.
On 'question time', I noticed people saying that the eu brought peace.
WRONG, It was, and still is NATO.
As for Britain's trading, there is still the Commonwealth countries we can deal with, also China and India, we will probably up better off.

[Jackdaw33]

Now let battle commence.

Boris, carpe diem. Join the Out camp and the crown is yours.

[Answerprancer]

In ...or we're f**ked.

[Jackdaw33]

Don't be silly, AP! We've been ***d for the past forty years or more. Time our orifices had a rest!

[Answerprancer]

...yeah, right.

[Answerprancer]

So what am I being silly about? The fact that Britain isn't the great sovereign state it once was when it was raping and pillaging other nations all over the globe? Our industries have been depleted to death by bigger and more successful economies all over Europe. We are just a rather pompous and politically constipated island these days and the only "sovereignty" we have is sad prats waggling their union "flags", ranting Daily Mail worshippers pratting on about immigrants and roadside greasy spoons flying their insidious St George flags in defiance to the passing muslim "insurgents". Weeping flag-wagglers desperately hanging on to the "pound" and QE2's head on our stamps.

[Jackdaw33]

Nice one, AP. I hope His Gitship gets to read it.

[Answerprancer]

I bet you do ;-)