Why Do The Lefties Loath Their Country So Much?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-3452193/STEPHEN-GLOVER-Lefties-luvvies-loathe-country.html

/// But I cannot help observing the grotesque irony that in the capital of Germany this deluded woman should have spoken of how ‘England’s fascistic side’ affected the British view of Germany and World War II. ///

/// She even had the nerve to grumble about being ‘completely brainwashed’ by films she saw in her childhood showing the British ‘being marvellous and beating the Nazis’. ///

You can't get any more anti-British than that.

[Peter Pedant]

o pul- lease can we get back to whether lefties are country loathers

and less of the the playground - please miss - I didnt push him he pushed me first ? we are after all meant to be adults

Haha I laughed at George Orwell as a coutnry lover
he served time as a colonial policeman in Burma I think
and came back empire hating about which he was not quiet .....

[andy-hughes]

Peter Pedant -

//and less of the the playground - please miss - I didnt push him he pushed me first ? we are after all meant to be adults //

That issue has been addressed, and will now cease.

[Svejk]

Loathing or stupidity?

https://imgur.com/a/6wRME

[vetuste_ennemi]

Orwell hated colonial bullies; he didn't despise the moral and cultural values of his inherited culture. And had certainly arrived at a conclusion, based on experience, that radical methods were more effective at damaging baby than purifying the water.
If this is too "en clair" for you, Peter, I will try to encrypt it.

[Marshwarble]

What matters - personal freedom or your country? The right chose country, the left chose personal freedom. It has nothing to do with hating the other option, it's just a choice.

[Svejk]

/// the left chose personal freedom.///

Lol, put that bottle down, warbles, and move away from the computer.

[Marshwarble]

Surely the fact that I can see both sides mean that I'm not a leftie? Is that the difference, do you think Svejk? The right are sober and the left are alkies? There are right alkies too.

[Hypognosis]

@AOG

If anything, Lefties do err on the side of "all for one and one for all", in favour of particular countries. Loyal to their fellow human beings before arbitrary patches of land (and associated culture), marked out by borders (or a coastline, in our case).

I hate to use phrases like "New World Order" because of the nutter overtones attached to it but I think they are more inclined to this idea of dropping borders and "unifying the planet" than the "everyone/country for themselves and devil take the hindmost" attitude of the right. Global unity is a pipedream, of course but one has to have an end goal or else you never get there.

If I read AB rightly, there is a belief among some contributors that the EU is some sinister socialist unification project along just such lines, so apologies for borrowing the idea and repeating it to someone who could be very familiar with it.

Notice the contradiction though? The left supposedly despises Imperialism but would, surely, like the whole world to be run in what they have decided is the 'good' way.