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Could these have been intended to be set off aboard a US bound aircraft?
Could these have been intended to be set off aboard a US bound aircraft?
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naomi24
I genuinely think that youngmafbog is trying to further his own agenda. His reference to 'apologists' is unfair. Who is it who is not acknowledging this atrocity?
Is there anyone on AB left, or right who is trying to talk this down?
Mamyalynne and JTH have once again hit the nail on the head with their measured and well thought out responses.
This line about the liberal left and 'ooman rights' is a side show. It's a way to take this appalling tragedy and twist it to support an agenda.
If it wasn't this, it would be ANY story...let's focus on what's really important here, and that's solidarity against these murderous filth, and not use it as a Left vs. Right argument.
It's pathetic.
I genuinely think that youngmafbog is trying to further his own agenda. His reference to 'apologists' is unfair. Who is it who is not acknowledging this atrocity?
Is there anyone on AB left, or right who is trying to talk this down?
Mamyalynne and JTH have once again hit the nail on the head with their measured and well thought out responses.
This line about the liberal left and 'ooman rights' is a side show. It's a way to take this appalling tragedy and twist it to support an agenda.
If it wasn't this, it would be ANY story...let's focus on what's really important here, and that's solidarity against these murderous filth, and not use it as a Left vs. Right argument.
It's pathetic.
The European Convention on Human Rights was written under the instruction of Churchill. The Human Rights Act 1998 is based on the original convention, and will not go away if we leave the EU. It will take a new act of Parliament to either replace it with something new or repeal it. But there is no plan to do that.
“The Human Rights Act 1998 is based on the original convention, and will not go away if we leave the EU.”
I keep on saying that in response to similar comments. Nobody seems to notice.
“It will take a new act of Parliament to either replace it with something new or repeal it. “
Yes, and we will have to withdraw as signatories to the ECHR.
“But there is no plan to do that.”
There were…:
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…but they got quietly ditched (sorry, “delayed”). Initially it was the fault of the LibDems when members of the Coalition. Now they’ve gone, there is no such excuse. But still the plans have been ditched:
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Apparently the problems are complex. Not so. We simply withdraw as signatories, repeal the 1998 Act and allow any alleged transgressions of Human Rights to be dealt with under other existing (and perfectly adequate) legislation. Of course that legislation does not allow people the right to remain here to pursue their “family life” when the only family they have here is a pet cat. So that may be among the the complexities.
I keep on saying that in response to similar comments. Nobody seems to notice.
“It will take a new act of Parliament to either replace it with something new or repeal it. “
Yes, and we will have to withdraw as signatories to the ECHR.
“But there is no plan to do that.”
There were…:
http://
…but they got quietly ditched (sorry, “delayed”). Initially it was the fault of the LibDems when members of the Coalition. Now they’ve gone, there is no such excuse. But still the plans have been ditched:
http://
Apparently the problems are complex. Not so. We simply withdraw as signatories, repeal the 1998 Act and allow any alleged transgressions of Human Rights to be dealt with under other existing (and perfectly adequate) legislation. Of course that legislation does not allow people the right to remain here to pursue their “family life” when the only family they have here is a pet cat. So that may be among the the complexities.
//A bit like the EU ban on home made jam being sold at village fetes.//
well actually there was a grain of truth in that. the EU legislative ban relates not to homemade jam per-se, but the re-use of glass containers for food. the way this was interpreted in the UK led some groups that run fetes, fayres, etc to conclude jam was banned and imposed their own restrictions.
well actually there was a grain of truth in that. the EU legislative ban relates not to homemade jam per-se, but the re-use of glass containers for food. the way this was interpreted in the UK led some groups that run fetes, fayres, etc to conclude jam was banned and imposed their own restrictions.
SP, No one is using this terrible atrocity to further their own political agenda, and you are quite right in saying that we should focus upon what’s really important here. However, you will never get the solidarity you seek unless the errors that western liberal attitudes are responsible for are acknowledged - which is also what’s really important here. If those errors continue to go unrecognised, we will repeat them again and again – and in the meantime our enemies will continue to mock us for our utter stupidity - and who could blame them?
By the way, I agree that the use of deliberately misspelt words is puerile, but I think making an issue of them in a situation like this is also puerile. Best ignored.
By the way, I agree that the use of deliberately misspelt words is puerile, but I think making an issue of them in a situation like this is also puerile. Best ignored.
mushroom25
Actually - it was 100% a media construct.
As evidenced by the fact that it was driven by the papers, rather that the Women's Institute.
It was up there with the ban on bent bananas.
The fact is - there has been a rather high number of EU stories which have become common currency, but are in fact,p...cobblers.
If New Judge can be fooled, anyone can.
Actually - it was 100% a media construct.
As evidenced by the fact that it was driven by the papers, rather that the Women's Institute.
It was up there with the ban on bent bananas.
The fact is - there has been a rather high number of EU stories which have become common currency, but are in fact,p...cobblers.
If New Judge can be fooled, anyone can.
//100% a media construct//
umm, not entirely SP - here's the EC directive that kicked it off....
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umm, not entirely SP - here's the EC directive that kicked it off....
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