Surely We Are Fast Becoming The Minority?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3555592/Obama-s-town-hall-style-meeting-sees-debate-ethnic-profiling-gender-questions-non-binary-intro-Jungle-volunteer.html

Judging by the audience Obama is convincing to stay in Europe, why are the white European indigenous population of these Islands, only recognisable by their absence?

[DTCwordfan]

No, we don't naomi, as the enemies are from within. Some of us have had the luck, the privilege and the chance to take more of a global perspective. Thank goodness.

[naomi24]

DTCwordfan, //Some of us have had the luck, the privilege and the chance to take more of a global perspective.//

We have indeed - although we don’t all feel the compulsion to crow about it incessantly. The more astute among us recognise that it’s equally important that we ‘indigenous’ Brits take pride in who we are, just as the rest of the world’s peoples take pride in who they are.

[DTCwordfan]

I am only responding your barb and what overtly could seem to be read as a very narrow-minded xenophobic view being expressed.

If you were to add to your second para, 'open our arms trade-wise, politically, charitably and culturally to be one of the major leaders of the world - change from within,' then I would agree with you.

[sp1814]

AOG

Re: your post at 15:01:

My first thought - 'British'.

[Togo]

//No, we don't naomi, as the enemies are from within.//

We have started to realise that now. It is what is causing the friction.

//Some of us have had the luck, the privilege and the chance to take more of a global perspective.//

How very lucky to have travelled. Unfortunately our EU partners appear not to respect us any the more, regardless of your valiant attempt.

We are definitely a minority in the EUSSR.

[DTCwordfan]

Take the USSR out of the equation and that is perhaps the real threat and one seriously to be concerned about as to a Brexit (I don't think we have the means to practice Metternich balance as we did in the late 18th and 19th centuries), then what are we left with, Togo, the EU.

Now who is in a majority in the EU? I would be interested to hear that one. Germany and France may think so, but even if they combine, they do not have the clout.

[naomi24]

DTCwordfan, so my words are ‘barb’and my views very narrow-minded and xenophobic. And all that you’ve deduced from my assertion that Brits are just as entitled to take pride in who they are as anyone else is. A coward's response, DTC.

[DTCwordfan]

No just stating an opinion about how you are coming across......

[Jackdaw33]

The EEC was created to benefit the wealthy industrialised states of western Europe, not to be the begging bowl for the raggle-taggle of the east.

[DTCwordfan]

nothing about British pride, EU pride or anybody else's, something that the States and Russia both do to an excess.

[naomi24]

DTC, no. You began with smart-ass advice to AOG - and it backfired on you so now you're attempting to crawl out of it by denigrating me. It doesn't work.

[DTCwordfan]

No I am not denigrating you - you were the one throwing the barbs at 18-22.

I won't get an apology from you for that and frankly I don't care, Honey.

[DTCwordfan]

time for dinner anyway.....bye.

[Jackdaw33]

Not to worry, Naomi, he's from Cornwall, he's pixillated.

[Togo]

(I don't think we have the means to practice Metternich balance as we did in the late 18th and 19th centuries),

Klemens Wenzel Nepomuk Lothar, Prince of Metternich-Winneburg-Beilstein (1773–1859), Austrian statesman. As Foreign Minister (1809–48), he was one of the organizers of the Congress of Vienna (1814–15), which devised the settlement of Europe after the Napoleonic Wars.

Now we Brexit fans are constantly told with a sniff and a sneer that WW2 and our immediate forefathers are not to be considered. Although the gainsayers think Obama is entitled to use dead GIs as a reference. This is 1814. Go Boudicca.


"The obvious is always least understood."

"I have never feared that the revolution would be engendered by the universities; but that at them a whole generation of revolutionaries must be formed, unless the evil is restrained, seems to me certain.... The greatest and consequently most urgent evil now is the press.... All journals, pamphlets, &c., in Germany must be under a censorship."

A couple of quotes from Prince Metternich.

[DTCwordfan]

with half arrsed remarks like that, Jackdaw, I'll push from independence from loons like you, if that is how the English truly think. Talk about making it personal. four letter word beginning with P applies.

[Jackdaw33]

That was one hell of a quick dinner!

[naomi24]

DTC, my words are ‘barb’ and my views very narrow-minded and xenophobic – and you’re not denigrating me. Right. By the way, the non-expectation of an apology for nothing and the smart-*** ‘Honey’ are as transparent as you are - and to anyone with an iota of sense, that’s pretty transparent. Enjoy your dinner.

Jackdaw, you could well be right. He's digging deeper. ;o)

[Jackdaw33]

...and by the way, there's nothing half-arsed about me. I don't do things by halves. I'm a total ****.

[naomi24]

:o)