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[agchristie]

Could it be because she is not a highly paid footballer?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3599297/Married-geography-teacher-27-sex-16-year-old-pupil-car-six-month-affair-started-propositioned-giving-lift-home.html

[agchristie]

AH > However, I find the moral argument less easy to support - she still abused her position of trust,

Yes, me too and the time lag affected the charges as you state.

[TheChair]

" they are both paedophiles in my dictionary. "
Nice that you have your own private dictionary, but dictionaries generally are there to aid communication.

[anotheoldgit]

viv41

/// I wonder if she had images lf bestiality on her computer ?? ///

In her case it's very doubtful that her computer was even examined.

[Bazile]

If the legal age on consent is 16 - why was she jailed ?

[andy-hughes]

Bazile - //If the legal age on consent is 16 - why was she jailed ? //

Because she was engaging in inappropriate sexual conduct - it only progressed to full intercourse when the boy reached the age of sixteen.

[anotheoldgit]

AH

/// it only progressed to full intercourse when the boy reached the age of sixteen. ///

In Adam Johnson's case it was never full intercourse.

[agchristie]

AOG > In Adam Johnson's case it was never full intercourse.

Yes, considerate of him that....

[anotheoldgit]

agchristie

/// Yes, considerate of him that.... ///

Can't condemn anyone for being considerate.

[hc4361]

This monster is a paedophile
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3598144/Man-filmed-sexually-abusing-surrogate-twin-daughters-four-weeks-old-jailed-22-years.html

This is very different from adults who lust after 15 and 16 year olds. I am forever grateful to my 'Mrs Robinson' but she wasn't my teacher and I just felt naughty, not violated.

It is very wrong for teachers to have sex with their pupils but unless those children are pre-pubescent they are not paedophiles, they are child abusers. A very big difference.

[agchristie]

AOG > Can't condemn anyone for being considerate

Or perhaps the victim of Johnson was not so willing to 'throw' herself at Johnson as many said. Perhaps Johnson tried to stop short to get away with it?

That word 'calculating' again...

[andy-hughes]

AG - //AOG > Can't condemn anyone for being considerate //

I think you can actually!

I wonder if the Johnson debate is grinding back into life again?

At least one of his inexhaustible defenders is in his corner once again - we will see if any of the others appear and pitch in.

[agchristie]

AH - since I put up this question I remain far from convinced between the attention and reaction deficit.

Yes, the charges were different but the broad strokes sre the same and yet there is no outcry or willingness to attribute any blame on the involvent of the victim whereas Johnson's victim was slaughtered.

[hc4361]

Adolescent boys have never been thought of as 'jail bait'. A horrible term that only ever applies to girls, apparently

[-Talbot-]

Lots of super intelligent posters on-line today, I would like to thank you all for explaining what a paedophile is.
I feel sure you would still think anyone who had sexual relations with your 13 year old child was not a paedophile, even if some ignorant (should I add bigoted there too?) people were accusing him/her of being a paedophile.

[hc4361]

My 13 year old was a very late developer and petite. She was the smallest in her class and looked more like 10. Had she been sexually abused at that age her attacker would certainly have been a paedophile as she hadn't started puberty.

Had it been one of her friends of the same age who could easily have passed for 15 or older, then no, I wouldn't call the attacker a paedophile.

I think there is a huge difference between an adult who is aroused by a well developed teenager and one who is aroused by a two week old baby as in my previous link

[andy-hughes]

Talbot - //Lots of super intelligent posters on-line today, I would like to thank you all for explaining what a paedophile is. //

A definition is not a matter of intelligence - which is variable - it's a matter of fact - which is not.

//I feel sure you would still think anyone who had sexual relations with your 13 year old child was not a paedophile, even if some ignorant (should I add bigoted there too?) people were accusing him/her of being a paedophile. //

No I wouldn't - because someone having relations with a pre-pubescent child is a paedophile.

If I saw a zebra, I wouldn't think it was a horse.

Things - and indeed people - are what they are.

[hc4361]

How attitudes have changed in only 33 years. Sam Fox was 16 when she first appeared topless on page 3 of The Sun but it took 20 years for the law to change so that such models had to be 18.

[andy-hughes]

hc4361 - //How attitudes have changed in only 33 years. Sam Fox was 16 when she first appeared topless on page 3 of The Sun but it took 20 years for the law to change so that such models had to be 18. //

Indeed - and The Daily Star went one better and had a slavering daily countdown to the birthday of one of their models - you couldn't make it up!

[hc4361]

Oh yuk

[viv41]

But we don't know if her computer was looked at or not aog.