So If The Republicans Don't Want Trump Why Did They Nominate Him?

[ToraToraTora]

http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37016680
Seems a bit odd to me, he's going through the whole process and got the nomination so why the whining now?

[AB Editor]

Because the rest of them have lined up their turn at running, and he's knocked that process out of join with a populist movement?

Also, the prez doesn't quite run the party in the same way as the PM does here - so each republican congressman/senator has to make a choice about their own constituency and whether it's worth supporting or rejecting Trump. There's little downside for them as there's hardly a 3-line whip!

If their constituency if economically republican, but not tea-party flavoured, they're likely to denounce him and suggest voting republican down the rest of the ticket.

Seems like sensible politics to me... as much as it can be sensible at all!

[dannyk13]

Maybe the sensible ones didn't nominate him.

[ichkeria]

As Danny says. And they probably hoped he'd start toning down his idiotic rhetoric, instead of which he's just ploughed on regardless, perhaps being too dumb to see that that approach won't work any more. The statement by these republicans is probably a killer blow. I doubt if anything like it has happened before.

[ludwig]

They probably didn't realise he was barking mad.

[ludwig]

They probably didn't realise he was barking mad.

[jim360]

Actually, the whining from the Republican party has been going on for most of the last year... All that's changed is that you've started noticing how afraid the right-wing in the US actually are of Trump, rather than just assuming that it was only the muesli-eating lefties that cared because you never bothered to do any actual research into him.

[mikey4444]

jno...."they probably din't realise that he was barking mad ? "

Most of us had come to that conclusion a long time ago, and I am at a loss to understand why the Republican Party didn't !

As I have said before, the Republicans are in this situation entirely because of their own fault. They should have got together and made sure that one amongst them could beat Trump ( and that can't have been difficult ! )

But instead, they fought amongst themselves for months of end, and allowed Trump in by default.

As it stands at the moment, the Republicans are staring another 4-8 years of life in the wilderness, full in the face, and they have nobody else to blame but themselves.

[Zacs-Master]

Echoes of Labour.

[mikey4444]

But Labour still have 232 seats in Parliament, and America doesn't have a Parliament. It has a Presidency and if Trump wins, he has his finger on the nuclear button, unless the Secret Service gets there first.

[jim360]

America has a congress, which has the same role as Parliament. And the congress is currently controlled by Republicans who don't like Trump much. The parallels even go so far as Trump (Corbyn) not even caring that his own party holds him in contempt. So ZM is right.

[Zacs-Master]

//But instead, they fought amongst themselves for months of end, and allowed Trump in by default.//

replace Trump wih Corbyn

//As it stands at the moment, the Republicans are staring another 4-8 years of life in the wilderness, full in the face, and they have nobody else to blame but themselves.//

replace Republicans with Labour.

Same story, different continent.

[Khandro]

These 'security experts' speak tosh, these are the hawks, born into the cold war, who believe that Russia is wishing to conquer the world, whereas it is they who have been responsible for millions of deaths around the world;
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/05/earth-248-armed-conflicts-ww2-us-started-201-81-killing-30-million-far-arrests-now.html
Trump wants no more of it, and neither do those supporting him.

[-Talbot-]

You have really soured this thread for mikey, Zac ... really soured it.

[mikey4444]

Not the same story Zacs, and even if it was, its not the subject of this thread.

It could be argued that it really doesn't matter a hill of beans who is in number Ten, at least as far as the wide world is concerned.

But if Trump gets into the White House, the whole globe will start to feel nervous.

[naomi24]

I don't think either of them can assume it's in the bag, but this is interesting: Three reasons Hillary could lose.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-36911157

[ichkeria]

Trump's - er - trump card, so he thinks, is to say 'everything's gone to pot, it's all the fsult of the people who've gone before, who know nothing. I'm going to save you, as I'm different'
Well, he's certainly different, but only in the sense that he's a shallow, ignoramus whose statements particularly on foreign affairs are so divorced from reality that he might as well be talking about another planet.
His own party have been appalled by him for long enough, but these comments from leading republicans, particularly on security, will do for him
Clinton leads in Georgia, I see: wow. That's like Labour topping an opinion poll in The Cotswolds :-)

[Clanad]

The RNC (Republican National Convention) has been run for the last many decades by the Washington insiders and elite that have little interest in actually meeting voters needs but, largely, to only seek re-election.

That last election (Obama 2008) was a total disaster… Mitt Romney ran and would't take the fight to Obama, to everyones amazement, including Obama. He wanted to be see as the penultimate Mr. Nice Guy. So… this cycle Mitt and others have been shoved to the sidelines… but, just yesterday a completely unknown from the State of Utah (yep, think immediately Mormon, as was Mitt)has announced a third party attempt… He has no chance whatever of being elected, but the hope by the elites backing him, (especially the ever present Mitt) is enough votes will be suctioned off to give the pyrrhic victory to Clinton.

Just a few days ago, Mr. Trump gave one of the most moving and well presented speeches on current financial condition of our government as well as a detailed and precise path to correct that. Everyone knows he has the talent to speak well and forcefully… we'll see if he can affect a larger corps of voters.

In the mean time Julian Assange… he of Wiki Leaks fame, is ready to release another bundle of Madam Hillary's e-mails. This release… according to Assange, promises to be especially destructive.

Just today, the families of two of the heroic soldiers killed in the Benghazi attack announce law suits against Hillary stating that she was directly responsible for the deaths, including the death of the Ambassador (a terrible slaughter because of his homosexuality). Problem of Hillary is that none knows where she was on that night. She was n3ever located and has never said where she was...

[ichkeria]

Conspiracy theory nutcase alert :-)

[-Talbot-]

Where?

[Clanad]

Always like sparring with educated and precise questions and answers and armed with an armful of facts...so enlightening and refreshing...