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Theresa May had it much tougher than she had imagined at the G20.
Theresa May had it much tougher than she had imagined at the G20.
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As others have said, there was a lot ‘
17:20 Tue 06th Sep 2016
Jim360, I said on here just after the 'Brexit' vote that negotiating us out of the EU was going to be a 'poison chalice' for whoever did it. I cannot see how May will be able to please everyone no matter what deal she comes out with.
I expect her to be forced to step down once the 'deal is done' as at least 1/2 the country will be unhappy no matter what she does.
I expect her to be forced to step down once the 'deal is done' as at least 1/2 the country will be unhappy no matter what she does.
a) There is no certainty that future UK/EU trade deals would include tariffs
b) Even if they did, export from the UK is cheaper than from far away Japan, and moving elsewhere in Europe costs
c) With the turmoil in EU countries of late no one knows if such a move would not be jumping from a 'perceived' frying pan to a 'real' fire. The EU may yet break up under the stresses of dissatisfaction over EU control and massive numbers of unwelcome migrants
The meeting was an opportunity for other countries to try to force the UK into doing what the other countries want. But the UK is no push over and will not cave in and opt not to do what is best for the UK's interest in the longer term. Others can threaten all they wish, we know they are only interested in making things easier for themselves. We look after our own interests.
But nice to see we still have a special relationship with the USoA though.
b) Even if they did, export from the UK is cheaper than from far away Japan, and moving elsewhere in Europe costs
c) With the turmoil in EU countries of late no one knows if such a move would not be jumping from a 'perceived' frying pan to a 'real' fire. The EU may yet break up under the stresses of dissatisfaction over EU control and massive numbers of unwelcome migrants
The meeting was an opportunity for other countries to try to force the UK into doing what the other countries want. But the UK is no push over and will not cave in and opt not to do what is best for the UK's interest in the longer term. Others can threaten all they wish, we know they are only interested in making things easier for themselves. We look after our own interests.
But nice to see we still have a special relationship with the USoA though.
I would have thought that the UK's best interest are served by paying more than just token attention to what other countries are saying. They are, after all, the ones we are apparently going to be "open for business" to.
The EU as a whole is the biggest single market in the world. The UK's imminent departure won't change this. We should, at least, bear that in mind.
The EU as a whole is the biggest single market in the world. The UK's imminent departure won't change this. We should, at least, bear that in mind.
She can not please everyone but she could try to please the majority who voted to leave.
Ultimately that was about regaining control so as long as the reason for leaving remains the priority and uncompromised by hoping to get something different then all will be well. Of course the skill at the negotiation table is about convincing others that other things you'd like are in their interest also, so no ridiculous barriers/demands should be made to agree them.
Ultimately that was about regaining control so as long as the reason for leaving remains the priority and uncompromised by hoping to get something different then all will be well. Of course the skill at the negotiation table is about convincing others that other things you'd like are in their interest also, so no ridiculous barriers/demands should be made to agree them.
I consider it impossible to negotiate a new trade deal with the EU - they have the experience and manpower to overwhelm the UK. So what should be done? When TM finally decides to trigger Article 50 the UK should list its 'red lines' which would include no free movement of labour, no more contributions, reclamation of our fishing grounds etc.
We should then state that we wish to trade freely with the whole world but if the EU or any other country or bloc that we have existing trade agreements with us wish to withdraw we will reluctantly revert to WTO rules.
To avoid becoming bogged down in piecemeal negotiations with the EU we would have to insist on an 'all or nothing' deal.
I do realise that this approach could be painful in the short term but cannot see any alternative and I am convinced that the UK would prosper in the long term.
We should then state that we wish to trade freely with the whole world but if the EU or any other country or bloc that we have existing trade agreements with us wish to withdraw we will reluctantly revert to WTO rules.
To avoid becoming bogged down in piecemeal negotiations with the EU we would have to insist on an 'all or nothing' deal.
I do realise that this approach could be painful in the short term but cannot see any alternative and I am convinced that the UK would prosper in the long term.
Airbustold all their uk employees that they should vote remain or their jobs would be in danger and the units would close and go to the EU. This did in fact frighten a lot of people to vote remain.
(Not that I work for Airbus) but did think at the time it was rubbish.
The cost of relocating to other countries would far outweigh short term losses,,, if there were any.
I am sure that in an effort to appease big businesses the gov will give them a bit of a back handed in some form of subsidy in any case.
(Not that I work for Airbus) but did think at the time it was rubbish.
The cost of relocating to other countries would far outweigh short term losses,,, if there were any.
I am sure that in an effort to appease big businesses the gov will give them a bit of a back handed in some form of subsidy in any case.
//lol. Modern Britain, indistinguishable from Soviet Russia and Nazi Germany. //
Didn't people risk their lives and indeed lose them fleeing from the above regimes? Not a lot of evidence to suggest people are doing the same to escape from Great Britain.... Not even the ones who don't like it here, mores the pity.
Didn't people risk their lives and indeed lose them fleeing from the above regimes? Not a lot of evidence to suggest people are doing the same to escape from Great Britain.... Not even the ones who don't like it here, mores the pity.
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