Trump.

[anneasquith]

Via huffington post. He's such a creep .

[Islay]

Annea can you give yourself best answer for your last post?

[ichkeria]

I'm not sure I'd call either of them "tyrants" exactly. No one stands as a front runner in a US election who isn't a bit of a bruiser in some way. Clinton's problem is more that familiarity has bred contempt. I am sure a problem she may have had in the past was that women were jealous of her. Old Bill, as well as being brilliant (in his recent book he and Boris Johnson seem the only interviewees Paxo has any real respect for, for wildly different reasons: Clinton could master a brief almost uncannily quickly, not an accusation likely ever to be levelled at Bojo) but of course irresistible to a lot of ladies. To his "irresistibiliy" to females (whether you think that is largely in his own mind or not) Trump seems to add a complete contempt for all of them. And this latest "revelation" seems unlikely to help him achieve the extra votes he needs - to put it mildly.

[youngmafbog]

Some people on here really need to get out a bit more.

[pastafreak]

Politics aside, I feel no sense of reassurance that many male ABers seem to think Trump's remarks are just "normal", laddish behaviour.
So it's not just Trump we need to worry about...

[EDDIE51]

Clinton has been criticised on here many times including by me. But all the criticism is in comparison to Trump.
I said that on a scale of 10, I would rate Clinton as a +4 at best , but Trump has to be -2.

[youngmafbog]

From a Bremainer still chomping on sour grapes I would expect no less Eddie.

[youngmafbog]

pasta, do you live in the real world or a pretend one?

What men say, in the presence od men, and what men do are tow entirely different things.

And as I have said above from my experience women are no different so perhaps you need to either get out more or get off you r high horse.

[anneasquith]

Isn't that the truth pasta :-(

[youngmafbog]

And I know it to be the truth women do the same.

So your point is?

[EDDIE51]

youngmafbog., What have the US presidential election candidates got to do with the 'Brexit Vote' ?? I really fail to see the point of that remark.

[youngmafbog]

Just keep chomping Eddie.

[pastafreak]

I must live in some sort of unreal parallel universe, as I'm quite certain that none of the men close to me over many decades...husbands,brother,in laws,etc...would have spoken in the manner Trump has. I'd also say that I, and all the females close to me, do not speak in that fashion. My feet are firmly on the ground...no high horse needed.

[youngmafbog]

Then get out a bit mre pasta

And no the men would probably ot do it in font of you. It is simply male banter.

Do you honestly think that does nt go on petal?

[Cloverjo]

I just read this on Twitter, posted by a man and retweeted by another man.

//
I know men are awful. I’ve been around locker room talk. But, as far as I’m concerned, Trump talks like a guy who’s never had male friends//

[Ellipsis]

> Trump: "I moved on her actually. You know she was down on Palm Beach. I moved on her, and I failed. I'll admit it. I did try and f--- her, she was married."
> Unknown: "That's huge news there."
> Trump: "No, no, Nancy. No this was [inaudible] and I moved on her very heavily in fact I took her out furniture shopping. She wanted to get some furniture. I said I'll show you where they have some nice furniture. I moved on her like a b--ch. I couldn't get there and she was married. Then all-of-a-sudden I see her, she's now got the big phony tits and everything. She's totally changed her look."
> Trump: "Yeah that's her with the gold. I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know I'm automatically attracted to beautiful... I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star they let you do it. You can do anything."
> Bush: "Whatever you want."
> Trump: "Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything."

Above, Trump admits to predatory behaviour and sexual assualt in much the same way that some of the Operation Yewtree perpetrators have been convicted for here - Dave Lee Travis for example. What he said is only part of the issue. It's what he did that led to what he said that's the real issue.

Ryan Grim in the Huffington Post writes "If Donald Trump does what he claims he does to women, he's guilty of a crime punishable by time in prison. There's no telling what Trump's legal fate is over the next few years, but the first chance that the American public will have to cast judgment comes at the ballot box." Too right.

Avik Roy, writing in Forbes, says "... few Republican lawmakers have Muslim relatives. Few Republican lawmakers are of Mexican heritage. Few Republican lawmakers have faced discrimination based on the colour of their skin. But all of them have white female relatives. And therefore, when Trump talks about grabbing white women by the genitals, they can directly relate."

House of Representatives Speaker Paul Ryan withdrew an invitation for Trump to visit Wisconsin on Saturday.

Jason Chaffetz, the House Oversight Committee chairman who led the Hill investigation into Clinton's email use while secretary of state, said he can no longer support Trump for President after his extremely vulgar comments about women. ""My wife, Julia and I, we have a 15-year-old daughter," Chaffetz said. "Do you think I can look her in the eye and tell her that I endorsed Donald Trump for president when he acts like this and his apology? That was no apology, that was an apology for getting caught. So I'm not going to put my good name and reputation and my family behind Donald Trump when he acts like this, I just can't do it."

Chaffetz's comments really hit home for me. Can women vote for a sexual predator? Can men vote for this kind of sleazy scumbag that hits on their wives and daughters?

Clinton is almost irrelevant to the issue of wheter people can vote for Trump or not. People simply cannot vote for Trump after these comments. He's blown it, and the GOP needs to see that and do something about it ASAP.

[Mamyalynne]

I used to hire and fire men , I once had to get rid of a guy who spoke in similar terms to these and despite his co workers (men) and myself warning him , he wouldn't stop.

He went!

It wasn't me being prissy, it was disrupting the workplace and everyone thought him shallow and a waste of space.


It was my business, so my decision.

[youngmafbog]

And your point is mammy?