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Muslims Forced-To-Leave Christmas-Market.....
Why the fuss, you couldn't have a Christmas/Religious stall at a market in Saudi Arabia!
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What does not seem to be “alleged” but seems to be fact is this:
“Members of the Ahmadiyya Islamic community had set up an information booth on Islam at the Rüdesheim town hall simply to make people better understand the religion.”
What on earth makes the “Members of the Ahmadiyya Islamic community” think that people visiting a Christmas Market might want to “better understand” their religion? How would they feel if, amongst one of their jolly festivals (let’s say the Festival of Eid al-Fitr, held to celebrate the end of Ramadan), members of the congregation from their local St George’s church set up a stall to help them “better understand Christianity?
“But mayor of Rüdesheim, Volker Mosler, has hit out at the complaints and said: ‘I am absolutely amazed there is so much intolerance.’”
Herr Mosler’s amazement goes some way to explain why there is so much anti-establishment sentiment across Europe. Firstly he should understand that the clue is in the name: A market that celebrates Christmas – a Christian festival. I’ve been to quite a few Christmas Markets and included among the fayre on offer there is Gluhwein (prohibited under Islam) and bacon/pork snacks (prohibited under Islam). Why should anybody visiting such an event want to “learn more” about a regime that prohibits the consumption of some of the products on offer there?
I’m not surprised it (allegedly) took the people of the town themselves rather than their civic leaders to make their point. I should think many people in Germany have had quite enough of their leaders telling them how wonderful it is to have millions of Islamists among them and how proud they should feel. Then they find that permission has been given for representatives of that religion to set up a stall in their local Christmas Market to “help them better understand” the religion. Is there any wonder at the reaction?
“Members of the Ahmadiyya Islamic community had set up an information booth on Islam at the Rüdesheim town hall simply to make people better understand the religion.”
What on earth makes the “Members of the Ahmadiyya Islamic community” think that people visiting a Christmas Market might want to “better understand” their religion? How would they feel if, amongst one of their jolly festivals (let’s say the Festival of Eid al-Fitr, held to celebrate the end of Ramadan), members of the congregation from their local St George’s church set up a stall to help them “better understand Christianity?
“But mayor of Rüdesheim, Volker Mosler, has hit out at the complaints and said: ‘I am absolutely amazed there is so much intolerance.’”
Herr Mosler’s amazement goes some way to explain why there is so much anti-establishment sentiment across Europe. Firstly he should understand that the clue is in the name: A market that celebrates Christmas – a Christian festival. I’ve been to quite a few Christmas Markets and included among the fayre on offer there is Gluhwein (prohibited under Islam) and bacon/pork snacks (prohibited under Islam). Why should anybody visiting such an event want to “learn more” about a regime that prohibits the consumption of some of the products on offer there?
I’m not surprised it (allegedly) took the people of the town themselves rather than their civic leaders to make their point. I should think many people in Germany have had quite enough of their leaders telling them how wonderful it is to have millions of Islamists among them and how proud they should feel. Then they find that permission has been given for representatives of that religion to set up a stall in their local Christmas Market to “help them better understand” the religion. Is there any wonder at the reaction?
"I suspect around 50% of visitors to Christmas markets, and maybe stall holders are not practising Christians, "
I'm not a practicing Christian either. But I enjoy Christmas markets and I do not want the opportunity to "better understand" that pernicious religion whilst I'm at one. It is not the place (and for my part I struggle to establish exactly where would be the place, but I digress). Muslims should realise that.
I'm not a practicing Christian either. But I enjoy Christmas markets and I do not want the opportunity to "better understand" that pernicious religion whilst I'm at one. It is not the place (and for my part I struggle to establish exactly where would be the place, but I digress). Muslims should realise that.
NJ- there are stalls I am not interested in and walk past without stopping. I would include a stall here where people hand out any religious leaflets- Islam, Christian, anything. Everyone was free to ignore this one.
If the stall holders had been accepted and paid then they have the right to be there. Of course if they had breached any rules or misrepresented what thier stall was about then the organisers should have dealt with it. It's a sad state of affairs if locals can drive them out (allegedly) and people here approve of it
I think the whole story looks like a fuss about nothing, with a few interested people looking to make a story out of almost nothing
If the stall holders had been accepted and paid then they have the right to be there. Of course if they had breached any rules or misrepresented what thier stall was about then the organisers should have dealt with it. It's a sad state of affairs if locals can drive them out (allegedly) and people here approve of it
I think the whole story looks like a fuss about nothing, with a few interested people looking to make a story out of almost nothing
// I do not want the opportunity to "better understand" that pernicious religion //
I thinks that sums up the extreme right-wing pretty well - "What we don't know, we don't want to know, and what we don't understand, we don't want to understand: but we expect everyone to listen to our proudly ignorance-based opinions".
I thinks that sums up the extreme right-wing pretty well - "What we don't know, we don't want to know, and what we don't understand, we don't want to understand: but we expect everyone to listen to our proudly ignorance-based opinions".
It's not a fuss about nothing (assuming the basis of the tale is true).
Muslims would not tolerate such an incursion by Christians at one of their festivals. I know it pays not to stoop to the low levels displayed by some "less enlightened" sections of the community. But in this case I'll make an exception. Islam is founded upon and thrives on intolerance and it seems to be the only language many of its followers understand.
Muslims would not tolerate such an incursion by Christians at one of their festivals. I know it pays not to stoop to the low levels displayed by some "less enlightened" sections of the community. But in this case I'll make an exception. Islam is founded upon and thrives on intolerance and it seems to be the only language many of its followers understand.
// I do not want the opportunity to "better understand" that pernicious religion //
//I thinks that sums up the extreme right-wing pretty well - "What we don't know, we don't want to know, and what we don't understand, we don't want to understand: but we expect everyone to listen to our proudly ignorance-based opinions". //
It's possible, TheChair, that the person you call a right-wing extremist knows enough about "that pernicious religion" already. That is possible, isn't it? Why do you think his remark is based on ignorance?
//I thinks that sums up the extreme right-wing pretty well - "What we don't know, we don't want to know, and what we don't understand, we don't want to understand: but we expect everyone to listen to our proudly ignorance-based opinions". //
It's possible, TheChair, that the person you call a right-wing extremist knows enough about "that pernicious religion" already. That is possible, isn't it? Why do you think his remark is based on ignorance?
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