A Step In The Right Direction?

[ToraToraTora]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38243500
Commons agrees to begin leaving my end of March.

[agchristie]

Yep - clear cut voting.

[mikey4444]

There was never any doubt that the HOC was going to back BREXIT, despite desperate attempts by our resident right-wingers to say there was.

This is an example of democracy in motion....issues being discussed, debated and decided by the HOC, not some clique in a back room somewhere.

[ToraToraTora]

sad that 89 of them, would rather ignore democracy. Let's hope they get deselected by their constituencies next chance they get.

[ToraToraTora]

here's the list of shame: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/mps-voted-against-triggering-article-9412477

[New Judge]

"...issues being discussed, debated and decided by the HOC,"

The issues were discussed, debated and decided by a far more important tribunal, Mikey. One with a membership of around 33 million last June.

[ToraToraTora]

I see the limp dums have the highest proportion voting against, no surprises there.

[mikey4444]

TTT....errrr...isn't Ken Clark a Tory ?

[mikey4444]

NJ....( 21:52) ....that seems at odds with everything you have already said about BREXIT ! You have said that the High Courts decision was correct and that you didn't envisage it being over-turned by the Supreme Court.

So,.... how does that square with your comments tonight ?

[ToraToraTora]

Only on paper mikey, he's always been a treacherous EU puppet. It may come as a surprise to you mikey but being a Tory does not mean you love all other Tories. I imagine that also has a parallel with you and Labour!

[jourdain2]

I've disliked and distrusted Ken Clarke for donkey's years. He has wrecked everything he was involved with, I.M.O.. I especially disliked him as Education minister. Hope he loses his seat and leaves us alone. Interesting that Sourby didn't vote against.

[New Judge]

"So,.... how does that square with your comments tonight ?"

I believe the High Court ruling was correct, Mikey. What should have been done was that the referendum legislation should have framed to make the vote binding on the government and should have legislated for withdrawal. But it didn't so we are where we are.

But the votes of 33m people are far more important than the musings of a few hundred assorted time servers, crooks and charlatans. Whatever they mumble over when they grace the Chamber between gin and tonics is irrelevant. They must simply find a way to implement the referendum result and so negate the negligence (or ineptitude or even perhaps deliberate malice, who knows) of the previous Executive.

[Zacs-Master]

Yes good news. A glimmer that our elected representatives realise they need to get their act together.

[jourdain2]

The timing is interesting, given the by-election tomorrow.

[mikey4444]

Mrs May should be thanking Labour today.

Yesterdays vote only came about because it was an Opposition Day Motion, and Mrs May comfortably got the OK from the HOC.

MPs backed this by 461 votes to 89 - a margin of 372.

Mrs May doesn't have a majority of 372, or anywhere remotely near it, so I hope she is thanking Labour today !

We can now move forward to 31st March 2017.

[chiaroscuro]

//I believe the High Court ruling was correct, Mikey. What should have been done was that the referendum legislation should have framed to make the vote binding on the government and should have legislated for withdrawal. But it didn't so we are where we are. //

Exactly so, but if the Government had framed the referendum in that proper manner it would have given credence to the possibility of a 'leave' result, the last thing DC wanted.

[jim360]

So the 89 MPs included, "51 from the SNP , 23 from Labour, five Lib Dems and Green Party leader Caroline Lucas." And a few others.

In other words, all the MPs representing EU-supporting parties? Yeah, I don't think they'll be getting deselected.

[EDDIE51]

As I and others have said over and again the referendum had only one purpose to get a 'Remain' vote. There was no plan of action for leave as the possibility of 'Leave' winning never occurred to them.

[youngmafbog]

//In other words, all the MPs representing EU-supporting parties? Yeah, I don't think they'll be getting deselected//

Maybe not, but it is the public vote they need to keep a seat not a slecetion from a political party.

[ToraToraTora]

ok so all those represent remainers do they? They may have Remain tendencies themselves but as queen Jimmy keeps saying about Scotland, perhaps their constituents don't support that view.

[jim360]

I think the 51 SNP MPs need not worry -- fairly sure that same is true of Caroline Lucas, the 5 Lib Dems, the three from PC, the ones in Northern Ireland, etc etc.

Obviously it stands to reason that the majority vote should come out in the end in favour of Brexit, to reflect the referendum result, but 48% is still a lot of people and MPs ought to be representing at least some of them from time to time.