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Britain First Ex-Leader Jailed
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If there is anybody still left, who still thinks that Britain First is a harmless "patriotic" organisation, perhaps they had better read the above link.
If there is anybody still left, who still thinks that Britain First is a harmless "patriotic" organisation, perhaps they had better read the above link.
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I don't affix labels to people as a rule Ron, but anyone who thinks 'Hey boys, let's go on a Mosque Invasion' is a jolly wheeze is a waste of space in my book.
18:16 Thu 15th Dec 2016
divebuddy
/// Why can't people read links. Golding was forbidden to enter a mosque or encourage others to do so. He drove four people to a mosque so they could enter it. That's not so hard to understand, is it. //
I did read the link, so what proof was there that he encouraged others to enter the Mosque? It just doesn't say.
Neither is there any proof that he drove four Britain First members to Cardiff's Al-Manar Centre for a "mosque invasion".
He could have been out for a ride with his mates, happened to pass the Mosque and saw the worshippers leaving the Mosque, so they decided to stop, get out, and have a 'chat' with them.
/// Why can't people read links. Golding was forbidden to enter a mosque or encourage others to do so. He drove four people to a mosque so they could enter it. That's not so hard to understand, is it. //
I did read the link, so what proof was there that he encouraged others to enter the Mosque? It just doesn't say.
Neither is there any proof that he drove four Britain First members to Cardiff's Al-Manar Centre for a "mosque invasion".
He could have been out for a ride with his mates, happened to pass the Mosque and saw the worshippers leaving the Mosque, so they decided to stop, get out, and have a 'chat' with them.
Naomi - //andy-hughes at 13:47. //To be absolutely accurate, not I don't believe that Islam is creating a problem in the West//
If you don’t believe that Islam is creating a problem in the west, my observation wasn’t an assumption – it was accurate - because Islam is creating a problem in the west. If it wasn't we wouldn't be talking about it. //
We talk about because yourself and others believe there is a problem, and people like me and others believe that it is grossly exaggerated, and far too all-encompassing.
Neither of us has definitive proof that we are right - so it becomes a discussion point.
W could discuss whether or not the earth is flat, but discussing it would not turn it into a fact.
If you don’t believe that Islam is creating a problem in the west, my observation wasn’t an assumption – it was accurate - because Islam is creating a problem in the west. If it wasn't we wouldn't be talking about it. //
We talk about because yourself and others believe there is a problem, and people like me and others believe that it is grossly exaggerated, and far too all-encompassing.
Neither of us has definitive proof that we are right - so it becomes a discussion point.
W could discuss whether or not the earth is flat, but discussing it would not turn it into a fact.
AOG - //divebuddy
/// Why can't people read links. Golding was forbidden to enter a mosque or encourage others to do so. He drove four people to a mosque so they could enter it. That's not so hard to understand, is it. //
I did read the link, so what proof was there that he encouraged others to enter the Mosque? It just doesn't say.
Neither is there any proof that he drove four Britain First members to Cardiff's Al-Manar Centre for a "mosque invasion".
He could have been out for a ride with his mates, happened to pass the Mosque and saw the worshippers leaving the Mosque, so they decided to stop, get out, and have a 'chat' with them. //
I admire your tenacity in playing Devil's Advocate here, but the legal minds brought to bear on the subject clearly don't share your largesse in terms of the intentions involved - which is why the convictions were established.
If it looks like a duck ...
/// Why can't people read links. Golding was forbidden to enter a mosque or encourage others to do so. He drove four people to a mosque so they could enter it. That's not so hard to understand, is it. //
I did read the link, so what proof was there that he encouraged others to enter the Mosque? It just doesn't say.
Neither is there any proof that he drove four Britain First members to Cardiff's Al-Manar Centre for a "mosque invasion".
He could have been out for a ride with his mates, happened to pass the Mosque and saw the worshippers leaving the Mosque, so they decided to stop, get out, and have a 'chat' with them. //
I admire your tenacity in playing Devil's Advocate here, but the legal minds brought to bear on the subject clearly don't share your largesse in terms of the intentions involved - which is why the convictions were established.
If it looks like a duck ...
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AOG - if you check back, and read what I am actually saying I never look at - you will see that I am gently teasing my old sparring partner Naomi - I am not, as you have incorrectly deduced, 'never looking' at media reports about Islam.
Although, why would I ever need to read about Islam when I have you, Naomi, Khandro, Vesti, and others to keep me informed hour by hour on what they are doing wrong now>
Although, why would I ever need to read about Islam when I have you, Naomi, Khandro, Vesti, and others to keep me informed hour by hour on what they are doing wrong now>
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