Trumpageddon Is Comming......

[ToraToraTora]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38324045
Let's save all the climate data! PMSL! do we really share the planet with these people?

[mikey4444]

Trump is a climate-change denier, so at least somebody is willing to the truth.

[jim360]

It's not unheard of for governments to delete information they don't want people to know about, though.

Almost certainly an overreaction, but backups are useful anyway. More likely Trump will just ignore the data, rather than going out of his way to expunge it.

[mikey4444]

Jim....who knows....we could be on the cusp of yet another u-turn from Trump, in line with all his other u-turns !

[ToraToraTora]

I don't think I have ever heard of anyone denying that the climate changes.

[Ninefingers]

Standby for the AGW fundamentalists

[jim360]

Or, perhaps, for people who don't get that "the Climate has always been changing" is not a mystical revelation that has never previously occurred to Climate scientists?

[mikey4444]

TTT :::::::

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-climate-change-denier-state-department-environmental-spending-questions-a7488281.html

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/12/19/us/politics/climate-change-trump-administration.html?_r=0

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2016/12/11/trump-says-nobody-really-knows-if-climate-change-is-real/?utm_term=.84b21c95d404

[ToraToraTora]

i think it's obvious that the climate is changing, has done for millions of years, now whether human activity has any effect? mmmmm.....

[jim360]

Called it.

[mikey4444]

TTT....like you, I am not a scientist.

But when David Attenborough says its at least, partly caused by human activity, then I don't have any reason to doubt him.

[EDDIE51]

I was somewhat skeptical about man made climate change until I went to the British Antarctic Survey in Cambridge and saw their graphs and data.
Basically the Earth balances output and adsorption of natural CO2 very nicely, but there is a small but significant quantity of manmade CO2 that is outside the equation. This amount is small (1 to 2%) of the total but as it is not 'balanced' by absorption it gradually increases in the atmosphere.
That is what is driving global warming.

[ToraToraTora]

"TTT....like you, I am not a scientist. " - but I am a logician and a lot of it does not add up.

[jim360]

Then you need better logic.

[Kromovaracun]

TTT

As a logician, are you familiar with GIGO?

Basically, if you're consuming crap data then your logic will not produce accurate results even if it is faultless.

[ToraToraTora]

logic is absolute jim there are no variants, some is not better that others.

[jim360]

"Logic is absolute, there are no variants"

Umm... what. I guess you missed out on Modal logic, with its more than 60 different variants, for example, then?

[New Judge]

Of course, Eddie. The man-made CO2 (4%) is totally different to all the rest (96%). A 10% change in the other stuff (9.6% of the total) can be accommodated (because such changes often occur) but a 10% change in the man-made variety (0.4% of the total) introduces fears of planetary meltdown.

Brexit has occupied our minds for so long now I've almost forgotten about Climate Change. On the whole I prefer Brexit :-)

[ToraToraTora]

that's not logic Kromo, boolean algebra is like algebra there are no opinions only truths.

NOT(A OR B) is the same as NOT A AND NOT B that's not opinion, that's fact.

[Kromovaracun]

Hush now Jim, 3T is in Mensa. I'm sure that means he must know what he's talking about.

Psh, you and your fancy specialisms.