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trt | 13:14 Thu 22nd Dec 2016 | News
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I wouldn't feel comfortable on a bus, with a passenger playing Koran prayer music on speaker, I would get off, considering what's happened in the past, on public transport.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4057630/London-bus-driver-caught-racism-row-passenger.html#newcomment
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If he's having a last-minute listen before he pulls the rip-cord - yes.
13:19 Thu 22nd Dec 2016
Mikey, you don't know what happened. None of us do. The video shows only part of the incident.
Mamyalynne, I'd be interested to know how your cab driver prayed en route.
mikey4444

/// AOG....but the music was turned off when asked, so .....tell me again

....why was it acceptable for the driver to ask him to leave the bus ? The music was no longer an issue. ///

Because the passenger took issue with the driver for telling him to turn the music off, by calling the him a racist.

He was lucky he got off so lightly.
Mikey ive already said there are plenty of others who face it every day so me and a few wimps aren't going to have an impact. You keep insisting this was just about loud music. It wasn't. May I respectfully add it's easy to be so magnanimous from the wilds of Wales - has there ever been a terrorist incident there?
Vocally, maybe he was singing ?
Oh so not praying.
Prudie....no....just like the vast majority of Britain, we have been terrorism free.

But the point I am making is if people allow this sort of thing to put them off using public transport, then the Terrorist has won.
I'll ask him next time, I didn't interrupt him.
Mamyalynne, Yes, do that.

Mikey, the terrorists have won even more if they succeed in blowing us to smithereens.
If it was a white skinhead blasting out some drivel from his phone who would change their mind and support the driver?


No lies please.
mikey4444

/// If people overreract like you say you would have done, then they would never go anywhere by public transport ever again, and the Terrorists would have won. London would grind to a
halt !///

We are constantly told to "be aware" and for example there must be hundreds of packages left lying around somewhere, yet when discovered they are treated with caution and called suspicious packages, but later turn out to be just innocent harmless ones.

It's the age we now live in mikey and anyone is a fool not to be cautious.

Better to make the terrorists believe they have won, rather than discover that one day, that they actually have.


AOG - //mikey4444

/// AOG....but the music was turned off when asked, so .....tell me again

....why was it acceptable for the driver to ask him to leave the bus ? The music was no longer an issue. ///

Because the passenger took issue with the driver for telling him to turn the music off, by calling the him a racist. //

My interpretation is slightly different, as I opined on my original post.

The driver asks the passenger to turn off his music - the passenger complies.

The driver then appears to infer that he does not feel comfortable with the passenger remaining on the bus, and demands that he alights.

The passenger, correctly in my view, perceives the bus driver's reaction as being based on the perceived notion that he may be a terrorist, and he is rightly angry and argues against being made to get off the bus.

As I pointed out - the original dialogue concerned the music, but since that was turned off, it did not remain the subject of the conversation - that turned to the driver's unreasonable demand that the passenger leave the bus.
Talbot - //If it was a white skinhead blasting out some drivel from his phone who would change their mind and support the driver?


No lies please. //

If a white skinhead was blasting out some drivel, and complied with a request to turn it down / off, there wouldn't be an issue - would there?

Because the argument was not about the music, it merely started there, but that is not where it finished.
Talbot, if it were a white guy, I'd ask Mr Spock to intervene....


If it was a white skinhead blasting out some drivel from his phone who would change their mind and support the driver? ...........

....and that fellow had complied with the drivers instructions to turn the noise off, I would consider the incident over.
Because the argument was not about the music, it merely started there, but that is not where it finished.



eh?

If it started there then it was about the music ot whatever drivel was being broadcast.
andy-hughes

You are just adding your own "Muslims can do no wrong" rhetoric to the proceedings.

Read what is actually reported, the passenger called the driver a racist, end of.
People who get on public transport with their phones blasting away without the use of earphones have an attitude problem.

Who disagree with that?
Talbot - //Because the argument was not about the music, it merely started there, but that is not where it finished.



eh?

If it started there then it was about the music ot whatever drivel was being broadcast. //

I disagree.

From what we are told, the passenger was listening to some religious music playing quietly on his phone. He was asked by the driver to turn it down / off, and he complied. That was the beginning and the end of the argument in terms of the music - the content should not be an issue, merely the volume and potential disturbance to the passengers and the driver - no-one would argue with that.

But - the driver then decided he wanted to passenger to leave the bus.

It would be difficult, being on the receiving end of such a request, to conclude that the request was anything but ethnically motivated, and unreasonable, and the passenger rightly protested.

So no, it was not about the music being broadcast, because that was turned off - it was about the driver's unwillingness to have the passenger continue his journey, for reasons which I believe to prejudice, and that is not acceptable.
Blasting away - agreed.

A witness did comment 'It wasn't loud' but it seems going by the report we are all missing something so there really isn't much point commenting is there?

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