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'humanitarian Crisis' In Nhs Hospitals, Warns Red Cross

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mikey4444 | 08:14 Sat 07th Jan 2017 | News
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-38538637

When the Red Cross says something like this, then surely we have to sit up and take notice ?

A quote from the Shadow Health Secretary :::::::

"For the Red Cross to brand the situation a 'humanitarian crisis' should be a badge of shame for government ministers."

Who can argue with that ?

The NHS is safe with us ....really ?
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Brilliant !
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/// our Hospitals are full of immigrants who are working there as Nurses, Doctors, Janitors etc. ///

How did I guess that old chestnut would come up?

Of course there are plenty of foreign nationals who do a damn good job in our NHS, and these should be welcomed with open arms.

But it is not these who are causing the demise of the NHS, these are the immigrants we want to welcome into our country, but there are huge masses of other immigrants flooding into this country that have never paid a penny into the system or are ever likely to do so, yet they are crowding our hospitals and other health services with their very large families and numerous health problems.

This is the same problems that we are seeing with our schools and housing etc.

It is time someone had the bottle to admit this without the usual excuses such as the winter weather, our old are living longer, we are not building enough houses etc etc.

It is called the National Health Service, the nation being the UK not every nation of the world who's citizens care to come along and receive the free health care, that we in this country have paid into over the many years our once envied Health Service has existed.
OG, I seem to think your comment have said by many other members on here, I totally agree what you say though.
TWR apology accepted with thanks for the spirit in which it was given...Now where did I put those roses???
I dare not answer that Camp lol, for my ill thought of reply, I will bend over!!!! sun does not shine there, Just wait for the replies now camp
Aog, when my mum was in hospital many times about 2-3 years ago, I don't recall seeing huge Eastern European families clogging up the system. I saw no people that I might take to be Muslim using all the beds. And this was in a city which has taken in many immigrants over the years.

The problem is the bad design of NHS management, people living longer - a good thing of course, if they can have quality of life - and lack of social care.
Clov, my other daughter works as a manager in another local Hospital, the amount of Asians going in there for an Asprin ONLY, a plaster for a cut ONLY, she sends them out.
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AOG....well done for blaming immigrants for all our ills. Its always immigration with people like you isn't it ?

There are none so blind.........
It's not Asians particularly though, is it? I read an article in The Times the other day where the writer was forced to take her elderly mum to A&E because there was no other care available to check her chest infection and other problems over the weekend.

They waited 12 hours overnight to see a doctor. The person in front of them in triage had a sore shoulder and could probably have just taken some ibuprofen. The writer didn't mention the ethnicity of that person, but there is no reason to assume that all the bedblockers and queue-hoarders are immigrants.
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Jo....you are correct but its much easier for the lazy-minded to just throw up the issue of immigration, rather than look deeper into the problem. For those, immigration is the root of all evil.

I have just heard our Health Minister, Jeremy Hunt being interviewed by Humphrys on the Today Program, and neither mentioned immigration. Hunt, however, did promise more funding.

Lots of people have chosen to ignore the huge problem of bed blocking, because the social care industry is creaking at the seams.....an industry that depends on immigrant workers.
Not a Anti Knock Immigrants Issue Mickey, but why are we employing persons from abroad in the NHS?
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TWR....I presume that is a serious question ?

How would we manage without them ?

We have plenty of people in Britain that could become doctors, nurses, etc, but they either won't do the work, or aren't educationally able to perform the duties involved. Even quite simple jobs, like cleaning, are done by immigrants, when we have many of our own unemployed that could push a mop around.

The care industry is slowly collapsing, with care homes going out of business, and there are a lot of immigrants working in them. In my area, the Polish seems to be in evidence in these places.
Mikey, you speak as though immigration is irrelevant to any of the pressures this country is buckling under. More people equates to the requirement for more services. It’s not rocket science!
Does Overworked, underpaid, too much paperwork, Claims, Incompetent overpaid Higher Managers, never having breaks, car park charging not come into it, why should member of the NHS Staff have to pay to park their cars up with a cost approx £400>£500 P/Y out of their wage, there are people within the UK willing to do the job, it's a job that been destroyed by trying to save money at the cost of peoples health / life's.
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TWR......all those items may be significant, but if we cannot persuade our own people to work in the NHS and care industry, then staff will still need to be recruited, from overseas, and from our immigrant population if necessary.

Its boots on the ground !
TWR, most people have to pay to park their cars when working, if you include it you have to mention it has a benefit and the tax man gets involved.
Islay, //if you include it you have to mention it has a benefit and the tax man gets involved. //

That's not true. Many organisations provide free parking for their staff, including some NHS trusts. Staff at our local hospital don't pay to park. It goes with the job.
Scotland,North / South Wales FOC, I have never paid for parking the whole of my working life.
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Parking is free in my Hospitals here in Swansea, although whether there is actually room to park is another matter. I have an xray appt. booked for this Wednesday, so I shall report back !

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