Who'll Join Me In A Boycott

[Samjenko]

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/modest-wear-hijab-kanye-west-show-nyfw-debenhams-choice-a7588761.html#commentsDiv

[hereIam]

Firstly, a_h is very fond of telling people to clam down, Talbot today, me the other day, I wonder who will be next. Secondly, what a scream Islay saying she can't understand why when someone on here is being bullied the Ed doesn't remove the posts, you mean like aog is bullied on a regular basis ??? And thirdly, I do not shop at Debenhams anyway, so have no need to boycott it, but might consider it if I did !

[vetuste_ennemi]

//What's wrong with 'Modest Fashion'? //

The implication that the way most non-Muslim women dress is immodest.

[-Talbot-]

@hc
Well here's a bigots knee-jerk view of it.(I posed this earlier)

Not sure I am happy with this though

''Yesterday, we saw the emergence of the UK’s first ever London Modest Fashion Week,''

Modest Fashion ... is that opposed to the slutty immoral indecent fashion that most women like now?
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and here's a well thought out nicey view of it.

sunny-dave
I have no problem at all with hijab (or indeed any other head covering) - I can see who I'm talking with and it's fine. The burka is another matter, it has no place in any society let alone a secular, western one.

Like others, I do take issue with the concept that the hijab equates to 'modest dress' which, by extension, means that not wearing one renders a woman 'immodest' - that's a load of fetid dingo's kidneys and deserves a firm rebuttal.
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In fairness I think both posts were ignored.

[hc4361]

I don't see it like that. Describing clothing as black doesn't mean all other clothing is white.

[anotheoldgit]

/// Secondly, what a scream Islay saying she can't understand why when someone on here is being bullied the Ed doesn't remove the posts, you mean like aog is bullied on a regular basis ??? ///

Thank you for bringing that matter up hereIam, I thought that when I read it, but when I mention the same, I am generally told "its not all about AOG".

Yet the 'usual suspects' continue to make it so, whenever I join in a debate.

[-Talbot-]

I'm sure you think that is a great reply, hc.


Anyhow because of the name of the range it got me wondering does the person behind this range have any interest in politics and maybe has an agenda ... guess what I found?

[naomi24]

fiction-factory at 11:48, I don’t know what you’re reading, but I didn’t say any of that.

[fiction-factory]

Thanks naomi. So maybe you now accept then that you can't defend your assertion that I think the sale of these garments would prevent women from being beaten.

[naomi24]

fiction-factory, it's not my assertion. I've copied and pasted your statement once - and you thanked me for it.

[Samjenko]

Anti-Trump marchers wore hijabs and also chanted allahu akbar.(as did womens' rights protestors) The Islamists must be laughing their socks off at idiot westerners.

[mikey4444]

You know, I have been out all day working, and have just come back from the Hospital and I am amazed that this thread is still going on !

Some women may want to wear a nice colourful Hijab and some may not. It is entirely up to them. Its doesn't matter a flying firkin to anybody else.

I said above that I am amazed but perhaps I shouldn't be, as I see this thread has descended into yet another anti-Muslim rant, by the Usual Suspects !

Twas ever thus.

[Garaman]

There was a hint in the OP that it might, Mikey.

[sp1814]

AOG

I fail to see why wearing the hijab is a barrier to integration.

Same as rastafarians with dreadlocks, Jewish men with kippahs or Sikhs with turbans.

Let's be honest...if you're the kind of person who sees a barrier because of dress, it doesn't matter what you wear, you will always have brown skin.

As someone once said on AB, a dog born in a manger is not a horse. With attitudes like that amongst some Brits, it matters not a jot if you traditional dress or not. You still won't be considered 'one of use'.

So with that in mind, if it were me, I'd probably continue to wear whatever I want.

[fiction-factory]

naomi- you are talking nonsense and you never know it. Someone said my non-concern about Debenhams selling these was some sort of insult to those women who get beaten up. Mine wasn't a statement of my views- it was a question to try to ascertain why.
Can you tell me what on earth the idea of selling these things has to do with increasing the chances of women being beaten up by husbands. Probably not. It's another red herring thrown in by those who know they have no case against Debenhams. When some have lost an argument the best tactic they can come up is to divert the issue and ask another tangential question, or to ask a non-sequitur or to ask someone to defend something they didn't say. You are particularly 'good' at it.
We all know what the real issue is here

[mikey4444]

Just plain bigotry, as far as I can see !

[Arksided]

Bring back the mankini and shove in their faces... that'll shut 'up.

[naomi24]

Mikey, please stop with your constant accusations of ‘anti-Muslim rants’ and ‘bigotry’. You do it for no other purpose than to shut people up. The thread concerns Muslims – therefore contributors are talking about Muslims – and some here disagree with you. Accept it.

fiction-factory, I beg to differ. I am not talking nonsense and I am not diverting the issue.

//Can you tell me what on earth the idea of selling these things has to do with increasing the chances of women being beaten up by husbands.//

I didn’t say that or anything resembling it, but you said to someone else //So you seem now to be concerned about women who are beaten for not wearing a hijab. And yet you don't want Debenhams to sell some. I don't get it//

Your words. You work out what that implies.

[poorclare]

So have I Mamyalynne, had hoped to wear it when I met his Holiness ONLY that never happened and never will ~ well maybe if I win that big Euro lottery. lol