Tarzan Back To The Jungle......

[ToraToraTora]

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-39202245
What a lucky escape we had in 1990 when Major became PM rather than this treacherous popinjay.

[youngmafbog]

Good call by Mrs May.

~Now that the petition is over 100K she should have the debate and start the reform of the HoL.

[mikey4444]

TTT....If Heseltine had won the Leadership battle in 1990, the Tories might not have lost 7 years later ! Major was hardly the most astute choice of Leader was he ?

[grumpy01]

If he is so in love with Europe why doesn't Lord Heseltine go and live on the continent and take Tony Blair with him and let Mrs May and her government get on with the brexit process.

[New Judge]

Very possibly.

But we would have adopted the euro and been signatories to the Schengen Agreement by now.

[ToraToraTora]

maybe mikey but at least he beat Kinnochio, which forced Saint Tony to turn Labour into Tories.

[grumpy01]

I think the Tories would have lost in 1997 Mikey because Tony Blair had realised what the British people wanted and aligned the Labour parties policies to suit.At the moment Jeremy Corbyn,at PMQ's,raises some very serious and pertinent questions but on getting various answers from the P.M. he does not seem to be able the carry the arguement forward thus being unable to land any significant blows.

[mikey4444]

Grumps....he is a multi-millionaire....he can live wherever he likes !

Don't pile all the blame for the present situation onto Heseltine's shoulders......The Brexit Bill was soundly defeated in the Lords, 366 votes to 268.

[naomi24]

Always thought him a creep.

[mikey4444]

"Asked what he thought his sacking said about the current government, he told BBC Radio 4's Today: "I have never met Theresa May so I can't make a judgement. She's doing very well in the polls... the public approve of what she's doing."

Very odd....a former grandee of the Tory Party has never met its current Leader !

[ToraToraTora]

Not really mikey, I'd imagine the PM would want keep collaborators at arms length.

[dannyk13]

//.The Brexit Bill was soundly defeated in the Lords, 366 votes to 268.//
No it wasn't. An amendment to the bill was passed.

[mikey4444]

Danny....quite correct !

[andy-hughes]

Lord Heseltine has always been a self-aggrandising politician - remember that the crackpot notion of a 'Millennium Dome' was his bright idea.

[naomi24]

I don't like him but the Dome is a highly successful venue for all sorts of things, so maybe not so crackpot.

[andy-hughes]

Naomi - //I don't like him but the Dome is a highly successful venue for all sorts of things, so maybe not so crackpot. //

It is now, but it was not conceived, designed and built as an entertainment venue - it was conceived designed and built as a hopeless mishmash of science and culture with impossibly optimistic visitor numbers envisaged to make it profitable.

You will recall it was a resounding flop, mothballed and massive expense, and only then was it revived as an entertainment venue.

Lord Hes thinking up a place where rock bands could play? I doubt it!!

[naomi24]

andy-hughes, I recall all of that.

[andy-hughes]

Naomi - //andy-hughes, I recall all of that. //

In that case, would you agree that the original concept for the Dome, which was Lord Heseltine's, was as crackpot as I have described, and its resurrection as an entertainment venue was absolutely nothing to do with him?

The two incarnations are completely separate, Lord Sky Pilot dreamed up the first - abject failure, someone else dreamed up the second - resounding success.

[naomi24]

andy-hughes, I don’t really think it was a crackpot idea. It was constructed to celebrate the Millennium and to house the Millennium Exhibition which, granted, didn’t attract the numbers expected. That’s all.

[ToraToraTora]

Andy, the dome may have been Messuptime's idea but it was enthusiastically implemented by Saint Tony and Noo Layba. I visited it in 1999!

[andy-hughes]

Naomi - //andy-hughes, I don’t really think it was a crackpot idea. It was constructed to celebrate the Millennium and to house the Millennium Exhibition which, granted, didn’t attract the numbers expected. That’s all. //

Then we must agree to differ.

The whole thing was badly thought out from the start. The visitor numbers daily in order to break even would be the equivalent to a Manchester United home game gate seven days a week for the duration of the project, that was never remotely feasible.

Add in the stuffy 'school project' approach to the whole thing, and the best observation made by anyone, which was the French President who asked "What is it for?".