If This Savage Refuses Medical Treatment, Then Let Him, Who Cares?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4381150/Fury-Lee-Rigby-killer-transferred-Broadmoor.html

[Islay]

Funny how this person's mental illness is derided and dismissed but soldier Blackman's is held as a reason to keep him out of prison.
double standards?

[ChillDoubt]

so you will have to do like everyone else, and see your tax pounds used to keep murderers alive.
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Such a pity you said that with such relish.
End of my participation in the thread.....

[hc4361]

If you look at the American model, the death penalty costs MORE than life imprisonment.

[naomi24]

Islay, comparing this man even remotely to Sgt Blackman is a gross insult to Sgt Blackman. Wonky standards if I ever saw them!

aog, I don’t care what happens to this vile creature either.

[Islay]

Why Naomi, if you take it to the base value - they both murdered someone, they both have mental illness but one is a soldier and gets away with murder!
Is the truth hard to face?

[andy-hughes]

Naomi - //Islay, comparing this man even remotely to Sgt Blackman is a gross insult to Sgt Blackman. Wonky standards if I ever saw them! //

I am surprised that you would fall into so obvious an emotional trap.

Islay is not comparing the two at all, she is comparing cultural attitudes towards the two - which is a very different thing, and I am quite sure you recognise that as easily as I do.

[andy-hughes]

Islay and I have cross-posted, but I can see that my analysis of her point is valid.

[Islay]

Thank you Andy

[EDDIE51]

Surely the running costs of Broadmoor can be worked out relatively easily? If we know the annual running cost it can just be divided by the number of patients?

[EDDIE51]

Found this
https://www.theyworkforyou.com/wrans/?id=2013-04-25d.153318.h#
£325,000 per bed per year and expected to increase to £335,000 by 2020 !

[youngmafbog]

He is playing a game and after what he sees as a cushier life in Braodmoor. He should be placed in solitary and if wont take the treatment then tough he stays there.

[andy-hughes]

YMB - There is a popular misconception that people can 'fake' a psychiatric condition in order to be placed in a 'cushier' environment like Broadmoor.

It is just that - a misconception.

Any prisoner is interviewed and tested by a group of experienced psychiatrists with most of the alphabet after their collective names.

You cannot fool these people, you cannot manufacture symptoms because you don't know what they are looking at, or how they make their assessments.

If a prisoner is in Broadmoor, it is because experts have assessed their mental health and deemed that to be the most suitable place of treatment for them.

[hc4361]

Most prisoners know it is far harder to get released from Broadmoor than prison

[andy-hughes]

hc - absolutely.

In a standard prison, you serve your time, you go.

In Broadmoor, you have to satisfy rigorous tests to prove you are safe to live in the community.

[anotheoldgit]

He was originally in Broadmoor later to be transferred to HMP Wakefield in 2015 when he was ruled to be sane.

This murderous scum is just playing the authorities for all he can get.

[andy-hughes]

AOG - //This murderous scum is just playing the authorities for all he can get. //

That observation infers that the authorities can be 'played'.

My point is that they cannot be 'played' in the slightest.

[anotheoldgit]

Naomi - //Islay, comparing this man even remotely to Sgt Blackman is a gross insult to Sgt Blackman. Wonky standards if I ever saw them! //

Yes even remotely and that includes "Cultural Attitudes" as well.

Disgusting for Islay to compare the two, but with her track record, that is nothing new for her.

Incidentally Sgt Blackman's case was not a savage Murder committed on our own streets, but Manslaughter committed on a foreign battlefield.

[emmie]

wherever he lands, he shouldn't ever come out.