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A Fitting Monument To One Of The Greatest Prime Ministers Of The 20Th Century
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I agree with 10Clarion here. There was mass unemployment in the 80's, most of it completely unnecessary.
She was very good for the middle classes, and more importantly, the pseudo-middle classes, but for the bulk of the working class she was a disaster. Here in South Wales, she and the Tories were hated, and its only now, nearly 40 years later, that the Party is starting to be trusted again.
I read in the news this morning, that Britain is dangerously short of Nurses. 60,000 are needed. And we have 20,000 less Police than we did in 2010. And yet some people will still vote for the Party that caused this !
She was very good for the middle classes, and more importantly, the pseudo-middle classes, but for the bulk of the working class she was a disaster. Here in South Wales, she and the Tories were hated, and its only now, nearly 40 years later, that the Party is starting to be trusted again.
I read in the news this morning, that Britain is dangerously short of Nurses. 60,000 are needed. And we have 20,000 less Police than we did in 2010. And yet some people will still vote for the Party that caused this !
Do you think Mikey that she should have kept the mines open despite the fact that they were losing money hand over fist and the government would have sunk had they kept them open?
Did you think that she should have magic'd jobs out of no where to keep people in paid employment?
There comes a time when people have to take responsibility for their own lives!
Did you think that she should have magic'd jobs out of no where to keep people in paid employment?
There comes a time when people have to take responsibility for their own lives!
Islay...her Government threw millions of people out of work, into misery, without thinking about the consequences.
And I am not just talking about coal mines, although after all the mines were closed, we still needed coal, but her preference was to use imported coal, this importing unemployment at the same times as the coal. The idea that coal imported from Perth, Australia could possibly have been cheaper than home produced coal, made no sense at all, as the power stations didn't have to pay for all the social security benefits to unemployed miners and their families.....the British tax payer had to foot the bill for that.
If you were poor, than her Government was a disaster.
And I am not just talking about coal mines, although after all the mines were closed, we still needed coal, but her preference was to use imported coal, this importing unemployment at the same times as the coal. The idea that coal imported from Perth, Australia could possibly have been cheaper than home produced coal, made no sense at all, as the power stations didn't have to pay for all the social security benefits to unemployed miners and their families.....the British tax payer had to foot the bill for that.
If you were poor, than her Government was a disaster.
Of course it was cheaper to import mass amounts of coal than to keep failing mines open.
We still do it today - it costs a fraction to import coal than to mine it ourselves!
Sorry Mikey but if you think she got any pleasure how of making a fraction of the country unemployed in order to support the country as a whole then you need to seek help for your delusions!!
We still do it today - it costs a fraction to import coal than to mine it ourselves!
Sorry Mikey but if you think she got any pleasure how of making a fraction of the country unemployed in order to support the country as a whole then you need to seek help for your delusions!!
Islay....you haven't understood my point.
Its only cheaper to import coal from the other side of the world, because the companies that use that coal don't have to pay for all the SS benefits. If you added all those benefits into the calculation, then it makes that imported coal very expensive indeed. Those SS benefits have to paid for though, and the British tax payer had to foot the bill, and that means you and me.
Its only cheaper to import coal from the other side of the world, because the companies that use that coal don't have to pay for all the SS benefits. If you added all those benefits into the calculation, then it makes that imported coal very expensive indeed. Those SS benefits have to paid for though, and the British tax payer had to foot the bill, and that means you and me.
Did you remember the state of the country when she took over?
Callaghan drove this country into the winter of discontent, the country was in recession and inflation was at over 20%.
100 people died during firefighters strikes, they threw money at freezing rents and raising benefits and giving money to unions and all it did was drive this country further into the ground, they were a party for one part of society. So you really cannot moan about what the Tories did to this country as they had to dig it out of the hole Labour put it in!!
Callaghan drove this country into the winter of discontent, the country was in recession and inflation was at over 20%.
100 people died during firefighters strikes, they threw money at freezing rents and raising benefits and giving money to unions and all it did was drive this country further into the ground, they were a party for one part of society. So you really cannot moan about what the Tories did to this country as they had to dig it out of the hole Labour put it in!!
It's hardly that curious. Folk had been incensed by a few large unions trying to demand more than was reasonable allowing someone with extreme views and inability to be reasonable to gain favour. There are plenty of historic examples of folk voting for the bad guy because they found something that would appeal and was able to exploit it. Recall it only takes a small shift of opinion for one party to lose votes, the other win them, and the combined difference to be dramatic.
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This is after 7 years of Tory rule.....does anybody still think that the NHS is safe in Tory hands ?
This is after 7 years of Tory rule.....does anybody still think that the NHS is safe in Tory hands ?
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