May Getting Severe Grief On Question Times, Especially From Nurses.

[scooping]

Beginning to look like another whoops from the Tory side...Picture might be different later.

[Khandro]

Nobody seems to have mentioned it, but why,why,why did she have to bring up a repeal on the ban on fox-hunting when a large majority of the country is clearly against it?
I think a few weeks back she really thought she could walk on the water (in lead boots!).

[Jackdaw33]

I think she was asked what her position was, to which she replied that if the matter ever arose again she would have a free vote. This was not the most major of her gaffes; to even hint at cutting pensioners' allowances was the height of folly.

[naomi24]

I must have been watching a different programme. I don’t recognise some of the comments here. Mrs May, I thought, maintained her dignity and answered the questions. Jeremy Corbyn, on the other hand, was abysmal. How many times was he told he hadn’t answered the question?

[kvalidir]

Must be your rose tinted glasses Naomi ;-)

[naomi24]

Jackdaw, she didn't 'hint' at cutting pensioners' allowances. She explained the new proposals quite clearly. What on earth were you lot watching?

[naomi24]

kvalidir, or your red tinted specs.

[Khandro]

" Mrs May told the hustings: “You’re either for fox hunting or you’re against it and some people feel passionately on both sides of this.

“I was brought up in the countryside and yes, I do support fox hunting.

“In the Conservative manifesto there would be a free vote in parliament and it would not be whipped by party.”

A curious connection, as though being brought up in "the countryside" - wherever that is - entitled you to hunt foxes and other animals with packs of dogs.

[kvalidir]

Nah I actually thought Jeremy could have done better on a lot of points and been a little less evasive on points of his own personal principle which some of the public are concerned about, like the 2nd use nuclear issue. I mean clearly no sensible thinking person would EVER fire a nuclear weapon no matter what, even as a second strike, that's obvious because it just doubles your chance of dying, however the point of a deterent if you have one is to deter and there is no deterent if you have already said you will never activate it, but May was a car crash and would have been even more of one if the audience had been on the ball and pressed her as they should.

[naomi24]

Khandro, I didn't hear a question about fox hunting.

[RobNorth]

Zacs, I agree...

All the real Politicians are long gone, replaced by Mountebanks who are obsessed with the Media, which in turn is more neurotic by the day. The whole thing is starting to resemble some kind of awful Japanese TV game show.
Welcome to the brave new world. like.

[vetuste_ennemi]

Surprised that so many of you bothered to watch this. Never going to be a "debate", was there?

The choice on offer is not the direction of travel, only the speed at which we arrive at the cliff's edge.

[anneasquith]

Its totally understanding now why TM is so reluctant to debate with any other politician, ..

[naomi24]

v-e, the only choice we have is the direction of travel and I do hope the choice is not backwards. Jeremy Corbyn seems to be stuck in the midst of the Industrial Revolution!

[Deskdiary]

As the hard of thinking seem to going into this election as though it's a presidential election, frankly, we're f u c ked. People appear to be choosing, if the polls are to be believed, based on personalities rather than policies.

However, I'm optimistic, I believe people will realise that what Labour are promising is completely unrealistic. They cannot deliver. They can rape the "rich" as much as they like, but it won't pay for their election promises.

I genuinely struggle to understand (and I'm not being obtuse) how intelligent people can even consider voting for Labour at the moment. Four Words: Diane Abbott - Home Secretary. Three words: Mcdonnell - Chancellor (help!)

[naomi24]

Deskdiary,// I genuinely struggle to understand (and I'm not being obtuse) how intelligent people can even consider voting for Labour at the moment. //

Me too - and I've said as much.

[jim360]

Perhaps it's because there's difference between voting *for* one party and voting *against* the other one. Unfortunately it's a subtlety that's lost at the ballot box, because they both appear in the same way with the same weight.

But before there can be any serious discussion about this you have to accept that, at the very least, there *might* be a reasoned case to support Labour, or at least to not actually support the Conservatives. And then there are local factors as well that come into play.

Finally, despite the narrowing of the polls, Labour aren't going to win -- or at least, probably aren't. If they do it would be a surprise for the ages -- and perhaps my delight at May's utter bells-up wouldn't last all that long -- but short of the shockiest of shocks, it's more a question of limiting the scale of victory than overturning the result. I don't want to see the Tories swept to power on a majority so large as to be essentially unshakeable for a decade or more -- hell, even a couple of Tory supporters don't want that, because they recognise the value of a strong opposition capable of holding the government to account. Whether or not we *actually* have that, Labour are the only party that could fill that role.

But the threat of Labour as you see it shouldn't even be an issue anyway. Whatever the polls say, and whatever the outcome ends up being, it shouldn't even be remotely this uncertain what will happen next week. May should have walked it. She's signally failed. That is *her* failure, and the failure of the Tory party as a whole.

Actually, if it comes to that, it's the failure of the Tory party for the last three elections. How didn't they win in 2010? In 2015 they were lucky in their enemies as well, if it comes to that -- the Lib Dems massacred from both sides, for being either too Tory or not Tory enough. And this election, they had a huge head start.

Look to May's failures, rather than the electorate's apparent unintelligence. She doesn't answer questions nearly as well as you seem to think, and has come across -- has presented herself -- very poorly indeed.

[douglas9401]

May has two huge problems, the cult of personality and not correcting that typo.

[Bigbad]

I’ve never thought that (compared to others) Mrs. May is very good without a script, and often looks stiff and awkward
Thought she started off OK, but seemed to get a bit rattled in the end. Possibly because that horrible aggressive, shouty man managed to speak twice.
I thought she was a good Home Secretary, but sometimes wonder if she has been promoted beyond her abilities.

And why do some people have to use occasions like this to give us their own personal sob story?

Mr. Corbyn seemed quite relaxed at first, but when he was faced with questions about supporting terrorists and nuclear weapons, I thought he became condescending and defensive.

I don’t remember the subject of fox hunting coming up either.

[Jackdaw33]

Although I expect Mrs May to win I don't expect her to be fighting the next election as party leader. The grey suits will see to that.

[Kromovaracun]

I thought May's performance last night was nowhere near as bad as her one on Sky News last week. It's well known on here that my preferred outcome is a Labour victory, but I thought she did fine. Not great, just fine.

I haven't watched Corbyn's segment yet.