When Are We Going To Bring Back Capital Punishment For Animals Like This?

[Quangoid]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4671912/Five-year-old-battered-mother-s-boyfriend.html

I'm saddened and shocked and in cases like this where you act like an animal the punishment should be like those for a wild killer animal, the words "Sharia law" spring to mind and if you're far right or an islamaphobe replace the word "Sharia" with "Medieval" as those muslims sure know how to meat out justice where we tickle our criminals with cotton wool gloves and "Balsa wood" sentences

[TWR]

Did anyone watch Piers Morgan last night, was the "HIC CUP" Woman sentence justified?

[naomi24]

ummmm, but life doesn't always mean life, does it. That's why some people have been released and have gone on to kill someone else. I'm not sure the state should put itself in a position where it becomes responsible for the murder of another innocent victim.

[Islay]

//I'm not sure the state should put itself in a position where it becomes responsible for the murder of another innocent victim. //
But the state should then murder another person?
Do you have stats for how many murderers are released and then go on to kill again?

TWR no one forgets the victim - thats a poor excuse for state murder!

[naomi24]

Islay, rather the perpetrator dead than another innocent - but that's just me I expect.

[mikey4444]

TWR....we are all entitled to our own view in this matter, and here is mine.

I have always opposed CP, going right back to when we debated it in school when I was 15. I have never changed my view in the resultant 50 years.

CP never acts as a deterrent, as most people on this thread seem to agree. Most murders are "crime passionnel" not pre-planned.

I am of the opinion that nobody has the right to end the life of another person. This does not come about from any religious stand point, as I am a committed Atheist.

Far too many people have been the subject of serious miscarriages of justice over the years. Would the Birmingham Six, the Guildford Four, and the Maguire Seven still be alive if CP had been around when they were wrongly and maliciously convicted ?

Timothy Evans is not here to give his side of the story, is he ?

[ummmm]

Naomi...life doesn't always mean life. Maybe they need to amend that.

My mate got 16 years for drug offences. He pleaded not guilty so got no reduction in his sentence (he was guilty) less than some murderers! It's our sentencing laws that need changing.

[ummmm]

Mikey - have you read the book 'The Stolen Years' by Paul Hill. Insightful!!

[mikey4444]

Ummm....no, but I have read other books and articles by other members of the aforementioned miscarriages of justice, including the Carl Bridgewater case.

Most have one thing in common....people were found guilty by a deadly combination of gross Police incompetence and/or malicious behaviour.

Any one of those cases persuades that CP would be entirely inappropriate.

Much has been said on here about life meaning life.
I largely agree with that in principle, but if our current sentencing procedures are inadequate, its hardly a reason to bring back CP.

[albaqwerty]

As the judges can only hand down sentences according to the law , I think we should each get a hold of our MP's and ask them to , nay, change that, TELL them to change sentencing guidelines

[mikey4444]

Sounds like a good idea Alba !

[albaqwerty]

Mikey, I have been known to have a few, hurts my brain cell no end tho :-D

Wonder how many folk know who their MP is?
(sorry, off topic, should ask that Q on a different post)

[mikey4444]

Alba.........I know who mine is, as she won the seat back from its temp. tenure by the Tories only a few weeks ago !

But seriously....its easy-peasy to find out....just look on Wiki !

[fender62]

i was once told you will get longer prison sentence for robbing a bank
then for murder, not sure if that true though, let alone say for a rape.
both to me are worse then robbing a bank if no one was shot, im assuming bank robbers always use guns.

[andy-hughes]

fender - // im assuming bank robbers always use guns. //

The ones in the 2008 banking crisis didn't use guns!!!

[TWR]

Fender, Richard Briggs comes to mind, mind you he made a fool of Royal Mail did he not?

[hereIam]

I agree with you Quangoid, but sadly, it's never gong to happen. I read this story yesterday and quite frankly it broke my heart - think this man should die !

[meekokyla]

I agree with Capital punishment being brought back the sooner the better.

[andy-hughes]

hereIam - // .... think this man should die !//

Is that view based on your desire for revenge, or a belief that it will deter others?

My view - as stated, is that Capital Punishment is revenge and nothing more, but I am interested to hear why you think the way you do - ?

[andy-hughes]

chanel5 - // The question: "When are we going to bring back capital punishment?"
The answer: "We are not going to bring back capital punishment."

End of discussion. //

Not exactly.

The OP concerned a specific concept of redress for a specific individual, so it`s not as open and shut as the idea of CP per se, which indeed is a simple answer.

This thread was more about the notion of CP for specific instances, which is a wider debate.