Its Very Simple, Do As The Police Tell You.

[webbo3]

Its very sad but just comply with the police commands.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41302571


Dave.

[-Talbot-]

''He's got a gun''

'Doesn't look like he has a gun'

''The caller said he has a gun''

'oh right then I'll ignore what I can see and shoot the ***'

[Peter Pedant]

do as the p'lees tell you
as jean charles menendes will confirm
would confirm..... if he weren't dead

[Baldric]

///He may have had a gun, refused to comply to the officers commands, perfectly responsible, this isn't the movies where you hit an arm or leg and go and arrest him///

Correct,
///Police encountered Scout Schultz, 21, outside a campus dormitory in Atlanta after a call about "a person with a knife and a gun"///

In my experience if you are in a Job where you are taught to shoot people, you are taught to 'Shoot to Kill' because a wounded enemy is still a dangerous enemy.
He was reported as having a knife and a gun, if after being shot 'gently' he still had the use of one or both arms he could have drawn that gun shot an officer.

Like the Title says "Do as the Police tell you"
especially if they're Armed Police

[webbo3]

Exactly Baldric, ive read a few SAS books and they go on about wounded enemies or terrorists, still a threat.

Dave.

[-Talbot-]

Bad policing Baldric. The man was visible, his hands were visible, he never looked like he had a gun.
He never raised his arms as if he was about to shoot, he was still many metres away from the officer who shot him.

How come our officers get better results than American officers when there are reports of a gun?

[webbo3]

\\How come our officers get better results than American officers when there are reports of a gun? //

because the chances of anyone have a gun in the uk is slim to non existent, in the U.S everyone can have one.


Dave.

[Baldric]

You don't think it's a possibility he could have had a gun in his waistband or in a pocket then?

[-Talbot-]

If that is their train of thought they should have shot him sooner.

[jackthehat]

///You don't think it's a possibility he could have had a gun in his waistband or in a pocket then? ///

You can't shoot someone if your gun is in either of those two places and not your hand....

[jim360]

Supposing the police acted essentially reasonably in this case (as I understand it, the victim was certainly brandishing a knife and ignoring instructions). But still, are you not troubled by how many people meet US Police and end up dead? Even for things initially as small as traffic violations. You can go on about how "he might be a threat" all you like -- the fact is that far, far too many people end up dead when meeting the police, whether they committed a crime or not, whether they had a gun or not, and whether they complied with instructions or not.

It should be troubling indeed, and yet all people seem to do is blame the victim, fail to spot the pattern, and show not a hint of concern that this shouldn't be happening. The Police are not Imperial Commissars.

[Baldric]

As posted @20:45
// if after being shot 'gently' he still had the use of one or both arms he could have drawn that gun shot an officer//

[-Talbot-]

Charles Kinsey, jim.

[jackthehat]

Do the police guns only hold one bullet?

They could 'wing' with one and 'terminate' with another should it prove necessary.

[jim360]

Yes, another example of overzealous officers. There are literally hundreds, but most of them go unnoticed, or the basic causal link: guns, and idiots who are too keen to use guns, and police who are too quick to go to the final sanction.

Here's another one: Tamir Rice.

Or this one: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jun/24/black-st-louis-police-officer-shot-white-colleague

And then there's this one:
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/07/17/us/minneapolis-woman-killed-by-police/index.html

And so on. And on. And on. And it won't ever stop, as long as you only ever see one story at a time and try and argue that it is reasonable to summarily execute anyone who is a threat, or who might be, or who looks at you in a funny way... or is, well, black?

[Spicerack]

I blame the liberal media and education system.
Scout would have been safely tucked away in an asylum a few years ago.
Now he's pumped full of indignation and vitriol (about nothing)
Wound up like a top and let loose.

[Spicerack]

Years ago when police were big beefy blokes, they could and more likely would give people 'a slap'.
Lowering standards to let women in, let pansyfied blokes in. Much more likely to resort to the gun first.
Just a theory.

[jim360]

Just a wrong theory.

[EDDIE51]

Data here on the number of people shot and killed by the police each year in the USA
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/police-shootings-2017/
Over 700 so far this year !!!!

[EDDIE51]

Just under 1,000 a year for the previous 3 years ! That's nearly 3 a day!