Brexit Withdrawal Bill Delayed - Ttt Reported To Be Ecstatic

[Peter Pedant]

erm sorry got my AOG hat on - just trying to stimulate discussion
just trailing a spoiler

EU withdrawal bill not to be debated until later
just on the beeb now

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41667556

bill not to be discussed until after the recess.....
yeah and OK 3T is reported to be anything but ecstatic

[youngmafbog]

//As soon as it is rescinded that is it over and done with, we stay in, and nothing changes.//

My my, you are so gullible. The EU will punish us for daring to vote out and causing all this exposure of the evils of them.

Don't for one minute imagine that things will go 'back to normal'.

In addition, dont forget Junker and Co have let the cat out the bag. One Nation, one currency, no sovereignty.

[HansUrbancka]

The truth is that we have adults behaving like children and Politicians who don't know how to leave the club of which UK was a member.

The UK has said that it is leaving the EU and should now say "We have left but will discuss , without any financial commitments at this stage, the future relationship we would wish with the EU".

Parliament can be left out, initially, and then consulted on issues which then prevail.

Hans.

[dannyk13]

Note for Eddie:-
In the recent UK Supreme Court case on Article 50, both sides assumed that it was irrevocable and the court judgement concluded: "We are content to proceed on the basis that that is correct, without expressing any view of our own

[youngmafbog]

Mickey, May went to offer some concession, that is what one side must do sometimes when negotiating. The EU however dont want to know.

She has shown she is willing to negotiate, the EU have shown they are not. Have you seen the thread 2 up from this: https://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/News/Question1575734.html

[ToraToraTora]

I sense a lot of dreaming from the Vichy British.

[ToraToraTora]

anyway I thought you'd all be delighted that the WSS bill is what delayed this another pet subject!

[youngmafbog]

Yes Hans, I suspect that something along those lines will happen eventually. The Government do need to show, if only to placate the remainiacs (not leavers), that every avenue has been explored and it is the EU that are being intransigent.

[mikey4444]

YMB....May went to Florence, not to offer a concession, but to beg for more time. She needs the extra time...the EU doesn't.

Europe is playing hard ball here, without doubt. But May and her dysfunctional and dis-unified Cabinet is not helping the situation at all.

You will rarely hear any praise from me, for the former female Tory PM, but do you think she would have put up with a Cabinet like this ?

[Peter Pedant]

No one is even suggesting A50 has not been invoked , but it can be rescinded at any time right up to the second before it is signed.

supreme court case - is that Gena Miller ?

May has been advised recently she can revoke it apparently - not by Mrs Mopp darn de road but by a Crown Law officer - no I have not seen it

Anyway thanks for your answers - thought I would have to make a few up:
Clove: jibber jabber who ever said we voted to leave the common market anway?
AOG: why oh why dont we stop and search ropists - I am sure we would find something if we did and that would solve everything including of course BretFix or whatever
Ni: I dressed up like Malala and people started shouting at me !
Jim...... I KNOW what is in all your minds ......

but now I dont - ....... BA - deffo Mama
I loved the off the wall blanket remark.

[Zacs-Master]

TGL would have had the sense not to let the public decide matters of national importance.

[jim360]

//
Note for Eddie:-
In the recent UK Supreme Court case on Article 50, both sides assumed that it was irrevocable and the court judgement concluded: "We are content to proceed on the basis that that is correct, without expressing any view of our own..."
//

I think the question over whether Article 50 is irreversible hasn't really been settled properly, but I'm not sure that we're at the point where it's on the table to even try. More likely the "transition" period will actually be a "we need another two years before a transition" period. I don't think staying in the EU any longer than strictly necessary after the referendum vote is tenable democratically.

[Zacs-Master]

Define 'longer than strictly necessary'.....and there's the rub.

[anotheoldgit]

Who gave you permission to wear my hat so as to try and stimulate discussion?

It does not make your thread any more legible.

[EDDIE51]

Can any of the AB 'brexit' brigade provide any positive news or information that Brexit will actually happen? Recently all the news has been that it is increasingly unlikely.
As to A50 being reversed this is from the person who actually wrote A50.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/728315/article-50-author-uk-reverse-brexit

[dannyk13]

Eddie, there have been pronouncements since that article was published in Nov 2016.

[ToraToraTora]

"I don't think staying in the EU any longer than strictly necessary after the referendum vote is tenable democratically. " - jim, eddie and the dreamers keep saying it will never happen. Eddie, what do you tink will happen then? It'll all go away and you'll wake up like Bobby Ewing? Please explain how we will not leave, you say it often enough, I think we'd all like to comprehend the scenario.

[EDDIE51]

Let me set out my position. As you all know I was and still am, in favor of remaining in the EU, but I had fully accepted that we would be leaving.
Now it looks increasingly as though we will never actually leave at all!

[EDDIE51]

TTT what In think will happen is that either the government will reverse A50 saying it is no longer practical / desirable or there will be a second referendum which will show a majority for remain and will force us to rescind A50.

[ToraToraTora]

yes but how would that come about? You mean one the the government will withdraw A50 and say sorry only joking?

[dannyk13]

TTT, anything is possible in Eddie's parallel world.